MAIN EVENT NUMBERS SHORT OF PREDICTIONS

[JohnGroomsTD]

8,000----10,000 we might have a million players

No Shot.

Most online qualifiers are already in. Majority of further entries will be cash pays. I said 6800. I am sticking to my guns.

[JohnGroomsTD]

Where are all the posters who assured us of 8,000 entrants? Where is the guy who wanted to bet the $1,000 on over 6800?

[Georgia Avenue]

Wow, feeling a bit feisty are we Johnny? It's still somewhat early for gloating...Don't like 8 billion Steve Dannenman's show up on Friday morning with 10k in CPA money to try and register?

But I put the over at 7k long ago...so I agree.

[shaniac]

We miss you Johnny.

[JohnGroomsTD]

I miss you guys too. I would like to have been there. just couldn't stomach some of the things I knew were going to happen. And I couldn't change them either.

[suzzer99]

Well my curiosity is officially piqued.

[river me please]

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I miss you guys too. I would like to have been there. just couldn't stomach some of the things I knew were going to happen. And I couldn't change them either.

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Well you can't just leave us hanging with a statement like that. Details please

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I miss you guys too. I would like to have been there. just couldn't stomach some of the things I knew were going to happen. And I couldn't change them either.

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Well you can't just leave us hanging with a statement like that. Details please

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if you search in this forum, you will see that Mr Grooms has already provided great insight as to his reasons.

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[1p0kerboy]

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Well you can't just leave us hanging with a statement like that. Details please

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Some of this has been brought to light in recent threads.

[UATrewqaz]

Bump to make fun of OP.

[Chapdoggy]

According the Harrahs press release last night

As of 11 p.m. Thursday night, close to 8,000 players had entered. According to a shift manager in the Amazon room, where this year’s WSOP events are taking place, the Rio has enough room for 8,800 people. There’s a good chance they’ll approach that. It seems like the line to the registration cage has been perpetually long all day, and there’s no sign of it ending.

[whynot?]

according to lederer last night there were close to 8700 and expecting 9k +

[Soulman]

This deserves another mocking bump, even though it doesn't need it /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[trying2learn]

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no reason to mock grooms - the guy is normally a class act. sadly, i think he was just rooting against the WSOP this year due to his falling out with Harrah's.

he's a great TD.

[Wake up CALL]

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This deserves another mocking bump, even though it doesn't need it /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

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no reason to mock grooms - the guy is normally a class act. sadly, i think he was just rooting against the WSOP this year due to his falling out with Harrah's.

he's a great TD.

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I've never had the pleasure to play in one of his tourneys but this thread makes him look like a donkey with a large dose of sour grapes. I find it difficult to believe he can be such a great tournament director while burning his bridges behind him.

After all pretty much anyone can be a competent tourney director, it ain't rocket science.

[Punker]

A friend registering told me he was allowed to play Monday - I thought those days were full and he said that since they had cracked 8000, they had reopened entry to the later days.

[Chapdoggy]

This just posted on Cardplayer

The Main Event Has Arrived
The 2006 World Seris of Poker Main Event is now upon us!

There are officially at least 8,532 participants, and the word on the street is that there will be up to 500 alternates per day. We will keep you updated as this situation develops.

This year there are four individual day ones, each playing down to 800 players by the end of the day. Card Player is ready to bring you the most complete coverage possible, so make sure your refresh button is working, and stay tuned to cardplayer.com.

[JohnGroomsTD]

LOL
OP is a blithering JACKASS

[i am run]

pretty amazing.. what a coinflip for the winner.. might as well split the field into a couple tournies and have multiple champions...

[JohnGroomsTD]

No donkey,
No sour grapes.
Sour Grapes would be if I had been fired. I chose not to continue my employment with HET for many of the reasons people have complained about in this discussion forum. I actually turned down a lucrative offer from them, as I felt I would be nothing more than a figurehead, while others would be making many of the policy and operations decisions. I was invited to be the Host/announcer. Precisely the part of the job that i feel is the least inportant. Congrats to the WSOP for the huge field, and good luck to them. (let me wipe this egg off my face)

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Jgrooms

[CharlieDontSurf]

So if those numbers were true and it some how hit 10,000
what does first place win...not sure what the percentages are that go to the final table 1st thru 9th

[Kevmath]

Yesterday, when it was about 8k, first place got 10.5m and the top 12 would win at least $1m.

[NicksDad1970]

John, Did you ever run the tourneys at The Horseshoe in Tunica?

[RayPowers]

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Run thousand person tournaments before, have we?

Ray

[JohnGroomsTD]

i was the TD for the Horseshoe in Tunica for a time. I also assisted Jimmy Sommerfeld on 4 or 5 events

[JohnGroomsTD]

It isn't rocket sciene. there are few people who can handle the pressure though. It's a different kind of pressure than most people are accustomed to. But if you think it's that easy, i am accepting applications for an assistant, and the pay is really good. Man up

[JohnGroomsTD]

Oh. I forgot. You need to have the ability to work 3 to 4 weeks consecutive, no off time. 16-18 hrs per day. Unlss its the WSOP. Thats about 50 days

[RayPowers]

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It isn't rocket sciene. there are few people who can handle the pressure though. It's a different kind of pressure than most people are accustomed to. But if you think it's that easy, i am accepting applications for an assistant, and the pay is really good. Man up

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How good is really good? I *DO* have experience. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Ray

[Wake up CALL]

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It isn't rocket sciene. there are few people who can handle the pressure though. It's a different kind of pressure than most people are accustomed to. But if you think it's that easy, i am accepting applications for an assistant, and the pay is really good. Man up

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Thnaks for the offer and I appreciate your prior post explaining that you have no sour grapes from being fired just sour grapes from being asked to do a different job than you wanted. Life is full of disappointments, you may expect many more. As for your offer of being your assistant I am normally the person in charge not an assistant so I again understand your frustration. You honestly couldn't afford my hourly consulting rate or I'd take you up on your offer to assist.

You seem honestly surprised that they could exceed 8000 players without you. That alone surprises me that you might think any tournament director has anything to do with the turnout at a WSOP event.

[Wetdog]

Fri Jul 28 12:32:00 PDT 2006
All-In Called with 8-High
On a flop of 10club7club5spade, Tim Rod bets $300 and his opponent raises to $600. Rod calls and the turn puts the 3club on the board. Rod again bets out with $1,500 and is again raised by his opponent to $4,000. Rod calls and the river puts the 3spade on the board. Rod pushes all-in and his opponent immediately calls. Rod flips up KclubQclub for a turned flush. His opponent says, "Do I have a straight flush? Oh, no I don't" as he shows 8diamond6spade for 8-high.

[Daliman]

Sweet, glad I let my mod buddy opt-out of our 1k bet, ( I had under 8k players) for $300 a couple of days ago.

Either way though, if this is true about 8k+++, color me amazed. How did they pull off 3k or whatever walkups?

[Wake up CALL]

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After all pretty much anyone can be a competent tourney director, it ain't rocket science.

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Run thousand person tournaments before, have we?

Ray

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No I haven't, I haven't played squash before either but I am 100% sure I could play well. I've never been swimming in the Pacific ocean but again I am 100% sure I could do it easily. So it seems reasonable that with my math, business management and poker background I could run a tournament of any size as well as any other current tournamant director. You are acting like it takes some special skill set outside of people skills, time management and scheduling. Most any fast food restaurant assistant manager with acne could accomplish this lofty goal.

[Bulldog]

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It isn't rocket sciene. there are few people who can handle the pressure though. It's a different kind of pressure than most people are accustomed to. But if you think it's that easy, i am accepting applications for an assistant, and the pay is really good. Man up

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Where and how much?

[JohnGroomsTD]

Once again if you were more informed you would understand. I was informed through a publication and a magazine article that i wouldn't be the TD. That is Harrah's discretion. To inform me by letting me read it in a magazine , thats lack of class. To try to make it up by offering a corporate posisition with no real authority was the capper. You are accustomed to leading. You would react the same as I did if you were put in the same posision. B y nearly all accounts, the best part of the 2005 WSOP was the tournament operations. That was my staff. The biggest issues at the WSOP 2k5 were food, smoking, and bathrooms. The person{s} responsible for tjose gaffes were promoted to a position of authority above me, and I felt I was unfairly treated. I decided to resign. As for your hourly consulting rate, I doubt it would be necessary, as I probably wouldn't need to consult with someone who feels that td'ing isnt rocket science. If you have experience in the field then good for you. Once again, if you want to see how easy it is, then I will hire you for the 2006 WPO in Tunica. Bring your running shoes.

[RayPowers]

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No I haven't, I haven't played squash before either but I am 100% sure I could play well. I've never been swimming in the Pacific ocean but again I am 100% sure I could do it easily. So it seems reasonable that with my math, business management and poker background I could run a tournament of any size as well as any other current tournamant director. You are acting like it takes some special skill set outside of people skills, time management and scheduling. Most any fast food restaurant assistant manager with acne could accomplish this lofty goal.

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Doubtful. There's a ton of aspects that are too easy to slip through the cracks. Traffic management is one of the biggest ones you didn't even mention, not to mention implementing a good system for scoring, picking staff, things as simple as supplies, scheduling and so much more.

More than anything else, being a tournament organizer is all about organizing chaos. Things will go wrong, fires will happen, period. The difference between a good organizer or not is one who can handle these fires and keep the event running smoothly without panic, and who can handle the players in a reasonable manner without getting flustered and without bias.

.. er... stepping off my soapbox. I guess I'm just saying I've been doing this for seven years now, and I used to think like you when I first started. I shiver to think of all the things I didn't know...

Ray

[JohnGroomsTD]

by the way. what, pray tell, is your lofty profession. If you say attorney, I am going to giggle.

[Wake up CALL]

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I was informed through a publication and a magazine article that i wouldn't be the TD. That is Harrah's discretion. To inform me by letting me read it in a magazine , thats lack of class.

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Then I really do understand your anger. Allow me to complement you on last years WSOP, I attended and it was well run. I cannot be there this year so won't be able to compare the two. Good luck in Tunica, I might see you there though not as your assistant. If I enter an event I'll drop an F Bomb so you can penalize me and then we can shake hands and call it even, ok?

[pdjplano]

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Once again, if you want to see how easy it is, then I will hire you for the 2006 WPO in Tunica. Bring your running shoes.

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sorry to interrupt, but can you give me an idea of what this type of gig pays? i'm not interested for myself, have no background in it, etc., and am just a low limit part-time donk who plays for fun, but i'm interested in what type of money people in this profession pull down... if you can share, i'd appreciate it {also, do players tip you often/ever or do you get all your pay from the casino?}

[traction]

pm'd you.

[Soulman]

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After all pretty much anyone can be a competent tourney director, it ain't rocket science.

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Run thousand person tournaments before, have we?

Ray

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No I haven't, I haven't played squash before either but I am 100% sure I could play well. I've never been swimming in the Pacific ocean but again I am 100% sure I could do it easily. So it seems reasonable that with my math, business management and poker background I could run a tournament of any size as well as any other current tournamant director. You are acting like it takes some special skill set outside of people skills, time management and scheduling. Most any fast food restaurant assistant manager with acne could accomplish this lofty goal.

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OP is a blithering JACKASS

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Not a jackass, just blithering. Tis OK JG, I agreed with you and I spent 5 days at the Rio earlier this season, I'm surprised they got that many.

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