$5k 2-7 NL event w/ rebuys

[Buffalo Davis]

I wouldn't think there were, but are any 2+2ers having a go at this?

[Ben Young]

barryg1 most likely

[Whitewash]

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Rule Clarifications
Certain players are having a hard time at this year's 2-7 event. One player in particular assumed that the best low possible included the Ace. However, in No Limit 2-7 Single Draw, the best possible hand is 7-5-4-3-2. The Ace is played only high. Also, straights and flushes count against you in this game. So, a player with 7-6-5-4-3 would not be happy with his hand.

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Are you SERIOUS? /images/graemlins/laugh.gif /images/graemlins/blush.gif

[Dynasty]

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Rule Clarifications
Certain players are having a hard time at this year's 2-7 event. One player in particular assumed that the best low possible included the Ace. However, in No Limit 2-7 Single Draw, the best possible hand is 7-5-4-3-2. The Ace is played only high. Also, straights and flushes count against you in this game. So, a player with 7-6-5-4-3 would not be happy with his hand.

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I did this at a home game but we were only playing 3-6. I kept the Ace on the first two draws. I figured it out just in time to fold it face-up as I drew two against someone's pat hand (I had already called the penultimate bet).

[True North]

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Rule Clarifications
Certain players are having a hard time at this year's 2-7 event. One player in particular assumed that the best low possible included the Ace. However, in No Limit 2-7 Single Draw, the best possible hand is 7-5-4-3-2. The Ace is played only high. Also, straights and flushes count against you in this game. So, a player with 7-6-5-4-3 would not be happy with his hand.

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Are you SERIOUS? /images/graemlins/laugh.gif /images/graemlins/blush.gif

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Yeah, you'd think the NAME OF THE GAME would tip them off.

[Kevmath]

Maybe he asked a floorman and was told 5-4-3-2-A was the best hand.

[bottomset]

is strassa really in the top10 in chips in this event, and the 1500 nl too?

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Rule Clarifications
Certain players are having a hard time at this year's 2-7 event. One player in particular assumed that the best low possible included the Ace. However, in No Limit 2-7 Single Draw, the best possible hand is 7-5-4-3-2. The Ace is played only high. Also, straights and flushes count against you in this game. So, a player with 7-6-5-4-3 would not be happy with his hand.

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I did this at a home game but we were only playing 3-6. I kept the Ace on the first two draws. I figured it out just in time to fold it face-up as I drew two against someone's pat hand (I had already called the penultimate bet).

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My friend JUST did this (playing 2-7 Triple Draw) to me when I was drawing 1 the whole time. He KEPT the Ace then called my bet after the 3rd draw and exclaimed 8 low before I could even do anything. I looked at his cards and seriously thought we were playing A-5 triple draw for a second.

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Rule Clarifications
Certain players are having a hard time at this year's 2-7 event. One player in particular assumed that the best low possible included the Ace. However, in No Limit 2-7 Single Draw, the best possible hand is 7-5-4-3-2. The Ace is played only high. Also, straights and flushes count against you in this game. So, a player with 7-6-5-4-3 would not be happy with his hand.

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Are you SERIOUS? /images/graemlins/laugh.gif /images/graemlins/blush.gif

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I played 2-7 once with BisonBison (playing Sfer's chips), and we went multiple bets on the river when hel held a straight. Yum...

Anyone know how Bill Chen is doing? I would assume people like him or Chris Ferguson will be a big favorite because its a highly mathematical game. If it wasn't a rebuy tournament, I'd be there right now /images/graemlins/frown.gifrebuys make the game too rich for my wallet!)

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[Jourdain]

Pretty nice field, 30 players left:

1 Bueno Patrick 96,000
2 Greg Raymer 93,000
3 Daniel Alaei 73,000
4 Men Nguyen 70,000
5 Allen Cunningham 60,000
6 Layne Flack 59,900
7 David Williams 59,500
8 John Hennigan 54,000
9 Steve Zolotow 50,000
9 Russ Salzer 50,000
11 Farzad Bonyadi 44,400
12 Phillipe Rouas 42,000
13 Eliyahu Levy 40,200
14 Mike Wattel 37,500
15 Chris Ferguson 37,000
16 Max Pescatori 35,100
17 David Grey 35,000
18 Tony Guoga 32,400
19 Andrew Black 32,000
20 Dutch Boyd 30,000
21 Per Hildebrand 25,000
22 Tim Phan 22,000
23 Mickey Appleman 20,000
24 Chau Giang 18,200
25 Dan Harmetz 17,100
26 Minh Ly 17,000
27 Michael McKenna 16,900
28 Mel Judah 13,000
28 Mike Matusow 13,000
30 Johnny Chan 8,100

[AtTheMovies]

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I did this at a home game but we were only playing 3-6. I kept the Ace on the first two draws. I figured it out just in time to fold it face-up as I drew two against someone's pat hand (I had already called the penultimate bet).

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My money is on Steve Z and Raymer, from my knowledge of this game they seem to be the best positioned to win. Steve is a legend at 2-7 single draw and after playing Triple Draw with Raymer I'm confident he has a better understanding of lowball games than most players in the field probably have.

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[Jourdain]

Zolotow is already out. 21 players left:

1 David Williams 132,000
2 Greg Raymer 89,500
3 Men Nguyen 85,000
4 Mickey Appleman 73,000
4 Phillipe Rouas 73,000
6 Bueno Patrick 65,000
7 Tony Guoga 63,000
8 Daniel Alaei 59,000
9 Russ Salzer 58,000
10 Farzad Bonyadi 50,000
11 Eliyahu Levy 42,000
12 Mike Matusow 37,000
13 Layne Flack 34,000
13 David Grey 34,000
15 Andrew Black 30,200
16 Mike Wattel 30,000
17 Michael McKenna 26,600
18 James Hoeppner 25,300
19 Allen Cunningham 20,000
20 Johnny Chan 14,600
21 Tim Phan 13,500
22 Dan Harmetz 12,200

From pokerwire

[bsheck]

I don't understand why this game isn't more popular. People play triple draw, so why not this? It's no limit, I could see this game catching wind if one of the major online sites were to offer it.

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I don't understand why this game isn't more popular. People play triple draw, so why not this? It's no limit, I could see this game catching wind if one of the major online sites were to offer it.

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Because the NL single-draw format doesn't provide that much action. Triple draw provides 3x the action, and the biggest posts you can imagine for a limit game.

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[ohkanada]

Greg and David Williams looking good with 15 to go. They only pay the final 7.

Go Greg!


1 David Williams 198,000

2 Greg Raymer 170,000

Ken

[xxx]

14 to go, they are drawing for tables now

[mpitts]

I /images/graemlins/heart.gif TD 2-7.. This event would probably be the one I'd want to win the most.

[ohkanada]

And Greg must have busted Grey because he has 242k in the latest chip counts.

Ken

[neverforgetlol]

i have no idea how you do strategy for this game, just seems like a lottery when you make it NL. so little info to go on.

[GrannyMae]

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i have no idea how you do strategy for this game, just seems like a lottery when you make it NL. so little info to go on.

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this is very similar to howard h.'s comments. he said it is a tough game, and those not used to single draw and or the NL format will be screwed.

[UMTerp]

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i have no idea how you do strategy for this game, just seems like a lottery when you make it NL. so little info to go on.

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Probably not a whole lot different than how a complete novice feels the first time he sits at a NLHE table, eh?

I've never played 2-7 draw, but instinctively, I would think that at the very least you'd need a completely solid math-knowledge base of the game (e.g., this hand is worth open-raising from Xth position against Y opponents, etc.), and a very very good knowledge of game theory. I'd think people reading skills would be at a premium too.

GL Greg!!

[ohkanada]

"David Williams Increases His Stack

Layne Flack limps under the gun for $4,000. David Williams raises to $20,000 on the button. Flack makes the call. Both players draw one card and Flack comes out betting $20,000. Williams quickly calls and shows KcJh7h6s4h for his King low. Flack mucks his hand in disgust as Williams increases his stack to $255,000. Flack is now down to $35,000. "

So this hand it seems strange that Williams would raise with a draw to a Jack low. Maybe he was using his stack to put pressure on the smaller stack. Maybe by Flack limping UTG it is showing major weakness.

Ken

[GrannyMae]

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"David Williams Increases His Stack

Layne Flack limps under the gun for $4,000. David Williams raises to $20,000 on the button. Flack makes the call. Both players draw one card and Flack comes out betting $20,000. Williams quickly calls and shows KcJh7h6s4h for his King low. Flack mucks his hand in disgust as Williams increases his stack to $255,000. Flack is now down to $35,000. "

So this hand it seems strange that Williams would raise with a draw to a Jack low. Maybe he was using his stack to put pressure on the smaller stack. Maybe by Flack limping UTG it is showing major weakness.

Ken

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this is just a guess.

i would think that had layne drawn 2, so would david. i'm guessing that was david's thinking.

[ohkanada]

True but I am guessing Layne was drawing to a better hand.

Ken

[GrannyMae]

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True but I am guessing Layne was drawing to a better hand.

Ken

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oh, no doubt about that. however, this is where position almost makes the draw 1 automatic, with the intentions of calling a weak bet or mucking if he misses. if david draws 2 with layne drawing 1, layne may shove (with anything) and david would have had a hard time calling unless he hit his 7.

if layne draws 2, david actually may have stood pat, or drawn 2 as well. layne draws 2, and david never draws 1 imo.

[Whitewash]

D-Dub is the master of going deep in games he has no clue about.

See: Wins stud bracelet when he never played the game before this year. (And, if you wanna be harsh, finishing runner-up in a NLHE event for $3 million. /images/graemlins/smile.gif )

[ohkanada]

"Allen Cunningham raises to $20,000 from under the gun preflop and Eliyahu Levy immediately calls. David Williams also calls and Phillipe Rouas calls after some thought from the big blind. Rouas takes 3 cards in his draw, Cunningham takes 1, Levy takes 2 and Williams stands pat. "

How about this one. Rouas calls another 14k in a big preflop pot out of the BB and then takes 3 cards, and ends up beating Williams T9 pat low. Williams has a huge chip lead if Rouas doesn't draw lucky.

Ken

[AngusThermopyle]

You forgot after draw, Cunningham bet $60K (with a Jack) and Williams (pat T9) called and Rouas overcalled with T9!

[daryn]

i just wanna say good luck to my man philipe rouas!! hell of a guy

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"Allen Cunningham raises to $20,000 from under the gun preflop and Eliyahu Levy immediately calls. David Williams also calls and Phillipe Rouas calls after some thought from the big blind. Rouas takes 3 cards in his draw, Cunningham takes 1, Levy takes 2 and Williams stands pat. "

How about this one. Rouas calls another 14k in a big preflop pot out of the BB and then takes 3 cards, and ends up beating Williams T9 pat low. Williams has a huge chip lead if Rouas doesn't draw lucky.

Ken

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David played that hand perfectly from what I can tell (without factoring in the size of the blinds or the chip stacks)

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[ohkanada]

Yeah how about Rouas. I wonder if he has the odds to draw 3 vs 3 opponents.

Ken

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Yeah how about Rouas. I wonder if he has the odds to draw 3 vs 3 opponents.

Ken

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There is 89k in the pot, and I know with a 2 card draw if he holds 234xx he is at best 12.5:1 against drawing 2 cards perfect 8 and under. The pot is laying him 6.4:1 (89:14), looks like he made a serious donkey play to me with a 3 card draw.

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[thedarknight]

rather impressive dwilli has a bracelet in stud and a really good chance at this event...especially with a star studded field. he's pushing himself into the top echelon of tournament players.

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Yeah how about Rouas. I wonder if he has the odds to draw 3 vs 3 opponents.

Ken

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There is 89k in the pot, and I know with a 2 card draw if he holds 234xx he is at best 12.5:1 against drawing 2 cards perfect 8 and under. The pot is laying him 6.4:1 (89:14), looks like he made a serious donkey play to me with a 3 card draw.

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Change that, I didn't know about the antes. So now its 99k in the pot, 99:14 (7:1). Still not good enough for me to call with immediate odds but if his implied odds are good enough that one opponent will call a pot sized bet on the final round then I like it better now.

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[innerpeace]

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See: Wins stud bracelet when he never played the game before this year.

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he played in the stud event last year.

[Whitewash]

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he played in the stud event last year.

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And?

Remember Marcel Luske at the stud televised final table 2 years back? Need I say more?

[Sponger.]

I will be extremely impressed if David Williams wins this tourney.

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I will be extremely impressed if David Williams wins this tourney.

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I will be extremely disappointed if Raymer doesn't win.

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[Sponger.]

He was already busto when you made that post.

[shadow.]

raymer out in fifth according to pokerwire.

3 left now:

1 David Williams 566,000
2 Phillipe Rouas 370,000
3 Daniel Alaei 299,000

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I will be extremely impressed if David Williams wins this tourney.

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I will be extremely disappointed if Raymer doesn't win.

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[DemonDeac]

From Cardplayer

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Wed Jul 26 22:30:00 PDT 2006
Players on Break
Players are moving to the ESPN feature table. Play will resume shortly.


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is ESPN showing this final table?? cuz that would be awesome

[mason55]

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"Did you see the Phil Hellmuth table yesterday? Yesterday was crazy, crazy." - Phillipe Rouas on the lack of spectators at the 2-7 Lowball final table compared to yesterday's final table where Hellmuth won his 10th bracelet.

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if he was a regular 2p2er ha could have that kind of support too

[Jourdain]

It's heads-up now:

Rouas Eliminated
Rouas moves all-in from the button. Williams asks for a count - Rouas has $80,000 exactly. Williams calls. Alaei moves all-in. Williams folds. Alaei shows 10-9-7-3-2. Rouas is drawing with 7-5-4-3 and hits a 7. Williams says he would have won the tournament if he'd called both all-ins. Rouas is eliminated in 3rd place and takes home $162,967.


1 David Williams 740,000
2 Daniel Alaei 420,000

BLINDS: 10000/20000
ANTE: 3000

[jomatty]

go daniel, something about d williams bugs me. he has some great results but he has yet to show me that he is a great player.(flame away)
matt

[Jourdain]

Daniel Alaei Wins No-Limit 2-7 Draw Lowball ($430,698)

Williams goes all-in. Alaei calls. Alaei shows 8-6-5-3-2. Williams is drawing dead. Daniel Alaei wins the tournament. Daniel Alaei wins the No-Limit 2-7 Draw Lowball tournament earning him $430,698. David Williams finished in second place, taking home $256,091.

[mlagoo]

sweet. although i can't help but wonder how big of a boost that is to alaei's BR considering he was playing in the HSP game.

either way, he seems like a good dude, i think he's friend's with gigabet, and he's got a bracelet. so he's like a 2p2er by proxy.

[Whitewash]

Alaei said in his CP interview that this was the first time he and D-Dub had played the game.

[neverforgetlol]

doesn't that kind of mean winning this is mostly luck?

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doesn't that kind of mean winning this is mostly luck?

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No, it means he understands the odds of drawing to improve his hand vs the size of the pot and the implied odds layed to him should he improve.

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[neverforgetlol]

yeah.. i just don't get this game. i mean i get what you're saying, but i still don't get the game.

[ohkanada]

Well Congrats to Greg on another final table and cash in the WSOP! It would have been interesting to see another Greg/Williams headsup match in a different game.

Ken