Foxwoods ruling question. I know I'm right but I need proof.

[27offsuit]

I'm just going to post the email I sent to some friends:

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So I'm at a friends house and this comes up...





In an unraised preflop pot, Ron in middle position throws out a five dollar chip. Next guy (let's call him 'Dick') folds, and I, in the small blind, throw in another $1 chip knowing full well Ron meant to raise but didn't say 'raise'. I want to play my A6s, so it's 'lesson time'. Ron coyly gives me the stinkeye, but also knows what he did and says something like "You're right using Foxwoods rules, but..." I'm like "C'mon Ron, you know better than that (smiling)..."



At this point we go over the 'single chip in unraised pot' rule and Dick in between me & Ron says "I play 5/10 NL and 10/20 at Foxwoods almost every day and I have NEVER heard that rule!". I say "Hey, think what you want, it's a rule and not only that, it's a fairly common one."



"NO WAY that's a rule." says Dick



"Yes way".



"No way".



At this point I've had quite enough of Dick...



(Holding my hand out) "I'll bet you $100 it's a rule."



(Insta-shaking my hand) "OK, bet."



"Dude, you SO owe me $100."



"Fine, show me documentation or some other form of proof."



"OK, that can be done. While I'm getting that, ask any dealer what the rule is on your next trip."







So, where do you think I stand here?

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So, is there any documentation on this?

[thedustbustr]

15. If you put a single chip in the pot that is larger than the bet, but do not announce a raise, you are assumed to have only called. Example: In a $3-$6 game, when a player bets $6 and the next player puts a $25 chip in the pot without saying anything, that player has merely called the $6 bet.

http://www.homepokertourney.com/rules_roberts.htm#BETTING_AND_RAISING

[thedustbustr]

keep in mind that many casinos do not use roberts rules. e.g. at the trop in ac, where i do most of my live play, in NL the action is reopened if a short stack raises all-in for half of a minraise (instead of a full minraise per RR). There are other irregularities too that escape me right now.

[tom10167]

This guy is a clown, I hope you got the $100.

[catalyst]

Yes, you are correct - this is the ruling at Foxwoods. Good luck on finding documentation though - just ask a floor person. Anybody who has played there for more than 10 minutes and not discovered this is a complete moron.

[27offsuit]

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Yes, you are correct - this is the ruling at Foxwoods. Good luck on finding documentation though - just ask a floor person. Anybody who has played there for more than 10 minutes and not discovered this is a complete moron.

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That's what irritated me so much to begin with. Anyone who "plays there almost every day" would surely know this rule.

He was just so ignorantly adamant about it...

[AKQJ10]

It has nothing to do with Foxwoods specifically. The Mashantucket Pequots have several distinctive house rules, but this isn't one of them. The "single chip rule" (or oversized chip rule) is quite standard as evidenced by Robert's Rules linked above.

[Trainwreck]

Also for a full copy of BC's rules, here's a link to Word file version:

http://www.pokercoach.us/RobsPkrRules7.doc

27o, print page 11, wave in his face item 15...

-TW