200 Bankroll and I want to move to 25NL 6-max

[Check_The_Nuts]

I've been running something like 17BB/100 over just 4000 hands. Really small sample but I should be a winning player. Anyhow making the jump from 10NL->25NL as early as possible is pretty important really, to start making a OK earn per hour. Blah Blah.

Looks like my best two options are 727 Poker, where I can get up to a 200 pound bonus (100% bonus). I could also do True Poker, and get 100% up to 200 dollars. Has anyone had experience at either of these sites? Also, will I get to burn through my bonus BEFORE I burn through my bankroll? I'm not really comfortable playing 25NL without a 500 roll, so I'm really hoping to have half my roll in bonus thats available as I play...

I use pokertracker/gametime. i've also played at Titan Poker and absolutely hated how few tables they'd have running at 10NL or 25NL. I really just dred locking up my roll in a Titan-like site.

Anyone have a good bonus suggestion? I've checked Bonus-whores guide, and that's where I came up with 727 or True Poker, but I was hoping for a bit of feed back from real live people....

[jh21hook]

I thought the Primas were easy at that level, I think Royal Vegas credited my bonus up front if I remember correctly. Good traffic and mini view lets you easily do at least 3 tables.

[Check_The_Nuts]

ah thanks, I'll look into Royal Vegas then.

[sixers030409]

If you hated the traffic on Titan poker just wait til you see True Poker's traffic..

[talentdeficit]

full tilt? they do a 100% sign up bonus still right? and there are millions of $25nl games running. releases in $20 increments too.

[WiSeIVIaN]

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full tilt? they do a 100% sign up bonus still right? and there are millions of $25nl games running. releases in $20 increments too.

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slow slow slow slow slow slow slow...

[heater]

In all seriousness, do yourself a big favor and stick to 10NL for awhile.

[WiSeIVIaN]

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In all seriousness, do yourself a big favor and stick to 10NL for awhile.

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There are worse things then small stakes bonuswhoring with 8 NL buy-ins....

[Lifthanger]

how about the first deposit bonus at golden palace casino?
played in pounds its ev is over 300$.
one afternoon of casino whoring should give you the desired bankroll.

[heater]

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In all seriousness, do yourself a big favor and stick to 10NL for awhile.

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There are worse things then small stakes bonuswhoring with 8 NL buy-ins....

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Yeah, going broke and not having a roll to whore with at all.

[dazraf69]

Hollywood Poker

[zooey]

Bankroll discussions are problematic for two reasons: 1) Its about risk management, which is subjective, and 2) Its ALL been said before.

You need to identify your values, and make a rational choice. Low limit bankroll management is suprisingly more mathematically difficult than large rolls, precisely because they are (relatively) easily replaced. To be conservative with a $200 roll in my value system is absurd, unless you've given your solemn vow to never invest in poker again. The chance of running good and never looking back far outweighs the risk of stepping back down to $10NL.

Some could repeat the above with one zero added to the numbers, Some could with 2. (not I)

Caveat #1) Poker is enjoyable, so there would be an opportunity cost for not being able to play at all. Are you willing to add $20 week to your roll if you run bad? This requires an undestanding of Std Dev, where you estimate how many hands you play in a week, and making sure

(n W)^.5 *r *std < BR + 20n for n weeks and r risk value (maybe 1.5-2 for me).

Caveat #2) if you continue to jump in limits every time you hit 8 buyns, you will of course virtually always go broke.

Search this site (and google) terms like certainty equivalent, kelly criterion, bankroll management. There are hundreds of sources, so take time and find one in your strike zone. Once you learn how to come up with your own numbers, you will know and accept the risk you choose with confidence instead of stress!

Best,

zooey

[HSB]

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full tilt? they do a 100% sign up bonus still right? and there are millions of $25nl games running. releases in $20 increments too.

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I'll pimp Full Tilt to damn near anyone, but if you're at the tens trying to move to the 25s then you should wait a while for Full Tilt. I think the lowest you want to be at Tilt at is the 25s preferably with a move up to the 50s in sight.

Do some bonuses like hollywood and get the roll up to 500 or so and get some experience at the 25s then move to Tilt at the 25s with the intention of moving up to the 50s when you feel you're ready.

[HSB]

You know what you might want to do is look at Absolute. They have a revoltingly deserved rockish reputation but if you're going to playing the lowest level games it really isn't going to make much difference. They have boatloads of bonus plus rakeback so if you can hold your own there, you can grow your roll pretty quick. Just be careful about getting into big pots.

And right now they have 32 active $10 tables...but they're really $20 tables because at Absolute the buyins are double most other sites.

[schlucky1]

While cruising this forum, learn more about casino bonus-whoring, turn your $200 into about $2K in a month, deposit $500 into poker site of choice, and throw $1500 into a mutual fund. Ziiing!!

[Blowup Doll]

I think you're underrolled, but that's your call. B2B has pretty decent clearance with NL. When i say "decent", i don't mean decent like as good as limit, i mean more decent than anything but Party.

[brandysbich]

I think doing a few primas like previously mentioned isnt a bad idea. You can play the 20nl and the pot needs to reach 4 bucks or a few cents less for it to be raked. The games are pretty fishy too and it doesnt clear bad at all either, u'll often find 5 or more tables with an avg pot of 5 or higher

[Pokers2Easy]

If I were you I would go to bet365 and deposit ur roll to get 150.00 5x bonus through bonus whores. You guys are insaine with your talk about bankroll management. You don't feel comfortable playing 25 cent NL with any less then 500.00 what kind of losing streak do you honestly think your going to run into. I do pretty good for myself an I run about 10 times min buy in for my roll.

If i have 50.00 I play 50 cent NL bringing in 10.00
If i have 100.00 I play 1NL bringing in 20.00

So on and so forth. If you manage to lose twice pull out an drop down.

So far i'm up 4k this year. I've downloaded poker time got 10.00 and had it up to 1k in a week. Deposited 100.00 in bodog had it up to 2800 in 3 weeks. Instant bankroll for partypoker through pokersource had that up to 1k in 1 week.

As for the bonus check out bodog Instant 100 from pokerlistings, 50.00 deposit to bet365 with 150.00 bonus 5x, royal vegas got 50.00 for 50.00.

Also with those small of limits hollywood is worthless. You'll never release your first 50.00 playing those limits. I multi tabled for about 30-45 minutes there in .50NL an i got 2 pts i think.

[Check_The_Nuts]

Thanks for all the replies. It does sound like I'd be taking a large risk with my roll if I tried to jump up to 25NL too early.

However, one day after writing this post I hit a nasty downswing and I will definitely be stuck at 10NL for a while. I dropped like 10 buy ins, so for those saying variance is nothing I just proved you wrong /images/graemlins/tongue.gif. I'll probably play a thousand or two thousand hands at 5NL to get my confidence back and rebuild the roll before I go back to 10NL. I obviously have some leaks, but man draws hitting every time in big pots just isn't fair (including gutshots for two buyins :/).

[HSB]

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Thanks for all the replies. It does sound like I'd be taking a large risk with my roll if I tried to jump up to 25NL too early.

However, one day after writing this post I hit a nasty downswing and I will definitely be stuck at 10NL for a while. I dropped like 10 buy ins, so for those saying variance is nothing I just proved you wrong /images/graemlins/tongue.gif. I'll probably play a thousand or two thousand hands at 5NL to get my confidence back and rebuild the roll before I go back to 10NL. I obviously have some leaks, but man draws hitting every time in big pots just isn't fair (including gutshots for two buyins :/).

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Poker tip--don't lose big pots.

[Check_The_Nuts]

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Poker tip--don't lose big pots.

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Wow, I'd say this is my major leak......nice one...Guys with AF of 3+ were also completely railing me.