$1k on a sad day

[sorry4me]

I just finished up my third bonus for the day. Finished up $1,081, then I turned on the TV. As soon as I turn to my favorite news channel I heard the news. 317 to 93 the internet gambling ban passes in the US House. I turned the TV off and decided to keep playing while I can.

-Sorry4me
"Land of the free?"

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It has been known for some time now that the bill had a 99.99999% chance of passing the house. The real challenge is in the senate where hopefully it will crash and burn.

[RikaKazak]

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It has been known for some time now that the bill had a 99.99999% chance of passing the house. The real challenge is in the senate where hopefully it will crash and burn.

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CONTACT YOUR SENATOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[canada_dry]

I'm canadian so the law won't affect me directly, though if it goes through it will have a HUGE impact on the online market. What will Party poker be like if US citizens stop playing? Not good news...

[Blowup Doll]

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I'm canadian so the law won't affect me directly, though if it goes through it will have a HUGE impact on the online market. What will Party poker be like if US citizens stop playing? Not good news...

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90% of the fish will disappear from the oceans. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

We'll all have to stay at B2B and play with the Euro Gambooooolers!

[canada_dry]

Man, what an impact that Election Fraud has had on this world. Consider what the world would be like had Al Gore been RIGHTLY elected as PResident!! No Iraq war and certainly no anti-poker legislation...

[festeringZit]

"Al gore RIGHTLY elected as President"

OMG, What a friggen idiot. Don't even go there.

[sorry4me]

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Man, what an impact that Election Fraud has had on this world. Consider what the world would be like had Al Gore been RIGHTLY elected as PResident!! No Iraq war and certainly no anti-poker legislation...

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Seems like alot of Dems. voted for this bill in the House. Being a member of the vast right-wing conspiracy as well as one who enjoys casino/poker bonus hunting, I can honestly say I'm at odds with the majority of my party at the moment. However, as you have pointed out, it could have been worse!

[JackOfSpeed]

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Man, what an impact that Election Fraud has had on this world. Consider what the world would be like had Al Gore been RIGHTLY elected as PResident!! No Iraq war and certainly no anti-poker legislation...

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Seems like alot of Dems. voted for this bill in the House. Being a member of the vast right-wing conspiracy as well as one who enjoys casino/poker bonus hunting, I can honestly say I'm at odds with the majority of my party at the moment. However, as you have pointed out, it could have been worse!

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I don't know what your definition of "worse" is, but you're nuts if you think that a Democratic-controlled Congress would be wasting time with a red meat political issue like this one.

The fact that a solid number of Dems voted for the bill is a valid one, but the Republicans were the ones who brought this issue to the floor and forced everyone's hand on the issue, and quite frankly a vote in favor of "Internet Gambling" could be a tough one to explain to one's consituents. So I can't say I blame most of the House for voting for the bill (Congressmen want to keep their jobs this Fall, and most Americans ARE opposed to internet gambling, even if they don't feel very strongly about it), but I think we can definitely blame the bill sponsors and cosponsors for wasting Congress' time with this nonsense.

[Olof]

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I don't know what your definition of "worse" is, but you're nuts if you think that a Democratic-controlled Congress would be wasting time with a red meat political issue like this one.

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No, they would probably be too busy with things like socializing healthcare, obstructing free trade, raising the minimum wage and splitting up Microsoft. In short - making the US a truly socialist country.

[JackOfSpeed]

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I don't know what your definition of "worse" is, but you're nuts if you think that a Democratic-controlled Congress would be wasting time with a red meat political issue like this one.

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No, they would probably be too busy with things like socializing healthcare, obstructing free trade, raising the minimum wage and splitting up Microsoft. In short - making the US a truly socialist country.

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That's an important point -- if you're ever beat on an argument, call the other guys "Socialists." It'll win the day every time. Until someone turns around and calls you a "Fascist," that is... /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[sorry4me]

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frankly a vote in favor of "Internet Gambling" could be a tough one to explain to one's consituents. So I can't say I blame most of the House for voting for the bill (Congressmen want to keep their jobs this Fall, and most Americans ARE opposed to internet gambling, even if they don't feel very strongly about it), but I think we can definitely blame the bill sponsors and cosponsors for wasting Congress' time with this nonsense.

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I can think of alot of reasons to vote against this bill. This will create a nightmare of regulation for the financial industry as well as it doesn't eliminate all forms of internet gambling. I think the dems lost an opportunity here . If this bill was truely debated the arguments will not hold up to rational scrutiny. But I quess since an election is coming up, many would like to play it safe. I do blame anyone who votes for something that they do not believe in simply for political reasons.

Also, when I said it could be worse, taxes comes to mind. I want the Republicans to keep the Democrats hands of my investment income and I want the Democrates to keep the Republicans hands off my poker/casino income.

There's also the whole freedom issue and the extent to which the government intrudes into our lives. I want one of the two party's to take the side of keeping government out of our lives so I can vote for them. Unfortunately, this issue seems lost.

As a republican, I'm disturbed when I find myself on the same side of an argument as Barney Frank(D). However, I do agree with him that adult americans should be presumed intelligent enough to be allowed to spend their money where they want.

Tonight, in the checkout at my local grocery store, I looked up to see an automated lottery machine ten feet away. Soon, it might be legal for me to gamble when buying my groceries but it will be illegal to gamble in the privacy of my home. Republican or Democrat, this bill doesn't make any sense.

[kyleb]

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That's an important point -- if you're ever beat on an argument, call the other guys "Socialists."

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Everyone in Congress is a [censored] socialist. It doesn't matter what party you belong to these days.

[2+2 wannabe]

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Everyone in Congress is a [censored] socialist. It doesn't matter what party you belong to these days.

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lollerskates

[smartalecc5]

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That's an important point -- if you're ever beat on an argument, call the other guys "Socialists."

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Everyone in Congress is a [censored] socialist. It doesn't matter what party you belong to these days.

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"Good night, and good luck."

[Alex/Mugaaz]

My family immigrated here for freedom, money, and the pursuit of happiness. Now I'm getting robbed of all three. Irony.

[wiseheart]

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I don't know what your definition of "worse" is, but you're nuts if you think that a Democratic-controlled Congress would be wasting time with a red meat political issue like this one.

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No, they would probably be too busy with things like socializing healthcare, obstructing free trade, raising the minimum wage and splitting up Microsoft. In short - making the US a truly socialist country.

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Apparently you are blindly ignorant of the Bush
administration's successes in two of those arenas.

[canada_dry]

Um, Bush hasn't been so great for the world. Do you even know that he is so disrespectful that he called our Prime Minister (Canada) "Steve" in a press conference after their meeting a fews days ago. His name is Steven Harper, and for god's sake show some respect! You would never hear our Prime Minister saying "Georgey" or "G". I don't know, this whole Bush Adminstration needs to quietly go away, including this godawful freedom infringement anti-online poker bill. Americans, get it right this time and elect a responsible democrat!

[NoMoreLurking]

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So I can't say I blame most of the House for voting for the bill (Congressmen want to keep their jobs this Fall, and most Americans ARE opposed to internet gambling, even if they don't feel very strongly about it), ...

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Actually polls show a majority of Americans oppose a ban on Internet gambling.

What the majority of the Congressmen are counting on is that more actual voters will be pleased their Rep. voted against this 'GREAT EVIL' than will be motivated to vote against their Rep. for his vote.

The truth is the majority of Americans don't vote. I'm not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing. If all the uninformed morons started voting who knows WHAT the government would do. On the other hand, based on how Washington works now could things get much worse?

I know "the socialists/fascists/tree huggers/... will take over" blah blah blah. The majority of Americans are none of those and just wish the government would protect them from terrorists, criminals, polluters, etc. and leave them the hell alone so they can go to work and then spend their free time on whatever they want to do.

[Gecko21]

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There's also the whole freedom issue and the extent to which the government intrudes into our lives. I want one of the two party's to take the side of keeping government out of our lives so I can vote for them. Unfortunately, this issue seems lost.

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That's why I switched from voting republican to libertarian. There's no way I'm voting for some socialist democrat, but I'm not voting for Republicans who now seem to think that they know what's best for you to do and want to control your lives as much as democrats anymore. I swear the republican party under George W. has really lost it's way.

It really doesn't matter which of the two parties you vote for anymore really, they're both for bigger, more controlling government with out of control spending.

[NoMoreLurking]

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That's why I switched from voting republican to libertarian.

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hooray, another person comes to their senses.

The entire Republican election strategy since at least Carter was in office is "You don't want to vote for THEM, so you have to vote for us." Actually, no, we don't; there are other choices. They never got the hint when Perot ran.


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It really doesn't matter which of the two parties you vote for anymore really, they're both for bigger, more controlling government with out of control spending.

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Remember Congress has raised its own pay 6 times since it raised minimum wage. Look out for #1, right?

[groo]

Yeah, he would have just f'd up other things. I really wish you Gories would just STFU already /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[groo]

I'm a registered libertarian also, and it has long struck me as odd and disturbing that my best choice in most elections is a fringe group of borderline whackos.

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responsible democrat

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We'll elect the the "resposible democrat" to help with "military intelligence".......said democrat should be on par with any "responsible" republican counterpart.

[terrapin314]

This really is not about party lines. To find the root cause, you need chase the money trail. The government and big business both believe that they are losing money by allowing internet gambling. The "Gaming" lobby has deep pockets are inevitably pushing this. The government is losing taxable dollars. End of story.

No one really cares if Joe Schmoe from rural America dumps his check into Golden Palace's coffers. Once again, it is not about morality, but money.

[kyleb]

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I'm a registered libertarian also, and it has long struck me as odd and disturbing that my best choice in most elections is a fringe group of borderline whackos.

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Haha, no kidding. My girlfriend is really involved with the WA LP, and while I'm a libertarian/anarcho-capitalist, I err on the side of practicality when it comes to voting for people. The LP Senator candidate for WA, Bruce Guthrie, is actually a realistic guy and isn't a crazed psycho - but I agree, most of the LP people are nuts.

I guess the LP back in the day was a larger group who had a lot of differences, and they ended up splitting into two groups - one with all the money and economically-minded people, and one focusing on social issues. The social issues people are the current LP and the economically-minded people are... the CATO Institute. Hmm, which one is vastly more successful today?

[Predator314]

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I don't know what your definition of "worse" is, but you're nuts if you think that a Democratic-controlled Congress would be wasting time with a red meat political issue like this one.

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No, they would probably be too busy with things like socializing healthcare, obstructing free trade, raising the minimum wage and splitting up Microsoft. In short - making the US a truly socialist country.

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That's freakin hilarious. Well said though. You're my kind of people /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Everybody Lurks]

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I don't know what your definition of "worse" is, but you're nuts if you think that a Democratic-controlled Congress would be wasting time with a red meat political issue like this one.

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No, they would probably be too busy with things like socializing healthcare, obstructing free trade, raising the minimum wage and splitting up Microsoft. In short - making the US a truly socialist country.

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That's freakin hilarious. Well said though. You're my kind of people /images/graemlins/wink.gif

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Swedes are your "kind of people?"

[jah7_fsu1]

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Yeah, he would have just f'd up other things. I really wish you Gories would just STFU already

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He would have an EXTREMELY hard time having America in worse shape than Bush does. Despite what people think about his private life, Clinton was an amazing president and we experienced some of our best growth in many areas, we needed more of that, not what we have now.

[chicagoY]

I still can't believe it. This internet bill makes me want to heave.

[chicagoY]

With 3 to 1 support why would it crash or burn? I wish you were right though.