Theoretical Casino Whoring Bonus Question

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Why is profit on casino whoring not arbitraged out? You would think people would figure out that this is an easy way to make money. Do most people suck at gambling that bad?

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Do most people suck at gambling that bad?

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yes

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Do most people suck at gambling that bad?

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I have no doubt in my mind that Internet casinos are up big due to so-called "bonus abusers".

[Frogic]

I'm not so sure about that. It may have been true for awhile, but there seems to be more and more bonus abusers who somewhat know how to play +EV. I keep on thinking about playvegasathome which got worse and then died in 2ish weeks, makes me think they must have been down.

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I'm not so sure about that. It may have been true for awhile, but there seems to be more and more bonus abusers who somewhat know how to play +EV. I keep on thinking about playvegasathome which got worse and then died in 2ish weeks, makes me think they must have been down.

Frogic

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*THEY* definitely were... no way is 888.com....

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I'm not so sure about that. It may have been true for awhile, but there seems to be more and more bonus abusers who somewhat know how to play +EV. I keep on thinking about playvegasathome which got worse and then died in 2ish weeks, makes me think they must have been down.

Frogic

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We act like we're exploiting these poor little businesses. I suspect that PlayVegasFromHome knew they'd get bonus chasers, but that they'd also get some recreational gamblers (and/or compulsive gamblers) in the mix, and some attention, and that offering this bonus for a short time was +EV for them long-term.

The bonus died. Did we kill it? Or was it never intended to live for very long? We assume that our actions are controlling these bonuses, but these casinos may be manipulating our actions instead.

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I'm not so sure about that. It may have been true for awhile, but there seems to be more and more bonus abusers who somewhat know how to play +EV. I keep on thinking about playvegasathome which got worse and then died in 2ish weeks, makes me think they must have been down.

Frogic

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We act like we're exploiting these poor little businesses. I suspect that PlayVegasFromHome knew they'd get bonus chasers, but that they'd also get some recreational gamblers (and/or compulsive gamblers) in the mix, and some attention, and that offering this bonus for a short time was +EV for them long-term.

The bonus died. Did we kill it? Or was it never intended to live for very long? We assume that our actions are controlling these bonuses, but these casinos may be manipulating our actions instead.

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It was killed by bonus abuse. I'd bet money on it.

[Packard]

Almost all people who are recreational gamblers that I know (people that play poker or blackjack, slots etc) who go to the casino once a week or play some online can't handle bonus whoring.

I have started over 6 people at casino whoring whoring and they only two lasted past two casinos. None play anymore.

Its like my friend who is into Nascar. I dont understand it and I think it sucks and my friend who is a recreational gambler (who did Starluck then quit) thinks I am crazy for whoring. It is an individual thing.

[jackybpho]

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I'm not so sure about that. It may have been true for awhile, but there seems to be more and more bonus abusers who somewhat know how to play +EV. I keep on thinking about playvegasathome which got worse and then died in 2ish weeks, makes me think they must have been down.

Frogic

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We act like we're exploiting these poor little businesses. I suspect that PlayVegasFromHome knew they'd get bonus chasers, but that they'd also get some recreational gamblers (and/or compulsive gamblers) in the mix, and some attention, and that offering this bonus for a short time was +EV for them long-term.

The bonus died. Did we kill it? Or was it never intended to live for very long? We assume that our actions are controlling these bonuses, but these casinos may be manipulating our actions instead.

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i guarantee playvegas took away the bonus because of bonus abusers.

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Almost all people who are recreational gamblers that I know (people that play poker or blackjack, slots etc) who go to the casino once a week or play some online can't handle bonus whoring.

I have started over 6 people at casino whoring whoring and they only two lasted past two casinos. None play anymore.

Its like my friend who is into Nascar. I dont understand it and I think it sucks and my friend who is a recreational gambler (who did Starluck then quit) thinks I am crazy for whoring. It is an individual thing.

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You started 6 people onto casino whoring and none have done more than 2? Do these people not enjoy making free money with very little risk? If I had stopped after my first 2 casinos, I wouldn't have been able to afford the new BMW 330i I bought due to casino whorin...

[Lobo329]

[quoteIf I had stopped after my first 2 casinos, I wouldn't have been able to afford the new BMW 330i I bought due to casino whoring..

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I am going to casino whore even harder now

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Almost all people who are recreational gamblers that I know (people that play poker or blackjack, slots etc) who go to the casino once a week or play some online can't handle bonus whoring.

I have started over 6 people at casino whoring whoring and they only two lasted past two casinos. None play anymore.

Its like my friend who is into Nascar. I dont understand it and I think it sucks and my friend who is a recreational gambler (who did Starluck then quit) thinks I am crazy for whoring. It is an individual thing.

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You started 6 people onto casino whoring and none have done more than 2? Do these people not enjoy making free money with very little risk? If I had stopped after my first 2 casinos, I wouldn't have been able to afford the new BMW 330i I bought due to casino whorin...

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Same here. I don't get it. I started four of my friends on it and they all crapped out and quit after one or two casinos.

They couldn't handle the grind or short-term variance. I keep telling them they are passing up free money and it won't last forever, but none of them seem to give a crap. Oh well, I guess that's good news for the rest of us.

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Same here. I don't get it. I started four of my friends on it and they all crapped out and quit after one or two casinos.

They couldn't handle the grind or short-term variance. I keep telling them they are passing up free money and it won't last forever, but none of them seem to give a crap. Oh well, I guess that's good news for the rest of us.

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I have this conversation with Freakin probably once a week. It's pretty silly.

[jackybpho]

Here's a little math, we'll use starluck casino as an example.
1600 WR, EV of about $95 on a $100 deposit.
let's just say you flat bet $2 the entire way. for math purposes, that's approximately 800 hands (not taking into consideration doubles/splits).
i can get in about 8 hands per minute on their software, so that equates to 100 minutes to complete the WR. 100 minutes = 1.67 hours. $95/1.67 = $56.88 per hour. unless those whoring casinos are making that much per hour at their job, it almost seems worth it to 'grind' it out.

[kyleb]

It's all about $25 bets on Starluck/Planetluck.

[agent_fish]

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I'm not so sure about that. It may have been true for awhile, but there seems to be more and more bonus abusers who somewhat know how to play +EV. I keep on thinking about playvegasathome which got worse and then died in 2ish weeks, makes me think they must have been down.

Frogic

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We act like we're exploiting these poor little businesses. I suspect that PlayVegasFromHome knew they'd get bonus chasers, but that they'd also get some recreational gamblers (and/or compulsive gamblers) in the mix, and some attention, and that offering this bonus for a short time was +EV for them long-term.

The bonus died. Did we kill it? Or was it never intended to live for very long? We assume that our actions are controlling these bonuses, but these casinos may be manipulating our actions instead.

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It was killed by bonus abuse. I'd bet money on it.

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I would too. It's definitely no coincidence a day after it was posted here the WR jumped.

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Almost all people who are recreational gamblers that I know (people that play poker or blackjack, slots etc) who go to the casino once a week or play some online can't handle bonus whoring.

I have started over 6 people at casino whoring whoring and they only two lasted past two casinos. None play anymore.

Its like my friend who is into Nascar. I dont understand it and I think it sucks and my friend who is a recreational gambler (who did Starluck then quit) thinks I am crazy for whoring. It is an individual thing.

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You started 6 people onto casino whoring and none have done more than 2? Do these people not enjoy making free money with very little risk? If I had stopped after my first 2 casinos, I wouldn't have been able to afford the new BMW 330i I bought due to casino whorin...

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Haha, it is a lot of money to some people.

[ImsaKidd]

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Almost all people who are recreational gamblers that I know (people that play poker or blackjack, slots etc) who go to the casino once a week or play some online can't handle bonus whoring.

I have started over 6 people at casino whoring whoring and they only two lasted past two casinos. None play anymore.

Its like my friend who is into Nascar. I dont understand it and I think it sucks and my friend who is a recreational gambler (who did Starluck then quit) thinks I am crazy for whoring. It is an individual thing.

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You started 6 people onto casino whoring and none have done more than 2? Do these people not enjoy making free money with very little risk? If I had stopped after my first 2 casinos, I wouldn't have been able to afford the new BMW 330i I bought due to casino whorin...

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Same here. I don't get it. I started four of my friends on it and they all crapped out and quit after one or two casinos.

They couldn't handle the grind or short-term variance. I keep telling them they are passing up free money and it won't last forever, but none of them seem to give a crap. Oh well, I guess that's good news for the rest of us.

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If it makes you guys feel any better, of the 10-15 people i worked with through my mentoring thread, i think one, maybe 2, are really sticking with it.

Making money is just not in some peoples blood.

[kyleb]

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If it makes you guys feel any better, of the 10-15 people i worked with through my mentoring thread, i think one, maybe 2, are really sticking with it.

Making money is just not in some peoples blood.

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Clearly. You tell people there is a few thousand to be made in casino whoring and they say "Wow, teach me!"

Then you do, and they stop after 2-3 casinos.

Whatever.

[Ken_AA]

I accidently mentioned this to my sister inlaw who has never gambled a dollar in her life. She asked me to teach her. This is gonna be a trainwreck.

Ken

[JackOfSpeed]

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If it makes you guys feel any better, of the 10-15 people i worked with through my mentoring thread, i think one, maybe 2, are really sticking with it.

Making money is just not in some peoples blood.

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Clearly. You tell people there is a few thousand to be made in casino whoring and they say "Wow, teach me!"

Then you do, and they stop after 2-3 casinos.

Whatever.

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Not sure if Imsa was counting me in his 1-2 people, but I've springboarded from a few conversations with him back into some serious whoring, and it's going very well.

Additionally, jackybpho is on my ignore list, but I can see that he posted on this thread through the people who quoted his message...he claims to have made enough dough to buy a car. Keep in mind, however, that he is an admitted "gnome," signing up as many as a dozen accounts at each site with fake identities to claim multiple bonuses. If you think WE'RE bonus abusers...

[jackybpho]

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If it makes you guys feel any better, of the 10-15 people i worked with through my mentoring thread, i think one, maybe 2, are really sticking with it.

Making money is just not in some peoples blood.

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Clearly. You tell people there is a few thousand to be made in casino whoring and they say "Wow, teach me!"

Then you do, and they stop after 2-3 casinos.

Whatever.

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Not sure if Imsa was counting me in his 1-2 people, but I've springboarded from a few conversations with him back into some serious whoring, and it's going very well.

Additionally, jackybpho is on my ignore list, but I can see that he posted on this thread through the people who quoted his message...he claims to have made enough dough to buy a car. Keep in mind, however, that he is an admitted "gnome," signing up as many as a dozen accounts at each site with fake identities to claim multiple bonuses. If you think WE'RE bonus abusers...

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what i find hilarious is that jackospeed has decided to ignore me, yet he's responding to my messages. yah, i admit to gnoming...don't worry, i won't stop, after this month, i plan on buying a pair of jet skis. point is people are interested even if you're not, so if you're truly going to ignore me, stick by your guns.

[jackybpho]

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Almost all people who are recreational gamblers that I know (people that play poker or blackjack, slots etc) who go to the casino once a week or play some online can't handle bonus whoring.

I have started over 6 people at casino whoring whoring and they only two lasted past two casinos. None play anymore.

Its like my friend who is into Nascar. I dont understand it and I think it sucks and my friend who is a recreational gambler (who did Starluck then quit) thinks I am crazy for whoring. It is an individual thing.

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You started 6 people onto casino whoring and none have done more than 2? Do these people not enjoy making free money with very little risk? If I had stopped after my first 2 casinos, I wouldn't have been able to afford the new BMW 330i I bought due to casino whorin...

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Same here. I don't get it. I started four of my friends on it and they all crapped out and quit after one or two casinos.

They couldn't handle the grind or short-term variance. I keep telling them they are passing up free money and it won't last forever, but none of them seem to give a crap. Oh well, I guess that's good news for the rest of us.

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If it makes you guys feel any better, of the 10-15 people i worked with through my mentoring thread, i think one, maybe 2, are really sticking with it.

Making money is just not in some peoples blood.

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ain't that the truth. i had to literally spell it out for a couple of my friends, but i guess they had a little more motivation after seeing my bank account swell up like a fat kid after he eats at a buffet.

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If it makes you guys feel any better, of the 10-15 people i worked with through my mentoring thread, i think one, maybe 2, are really sticking with it.

Making money is just not in some peoples blood.

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Clearly. You tell people there is a few thousand to be made in casino whoring and they say "Wow, teach me!"

Then you do, and they stop after 2-3 casinos.

Whatever.

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Not sure if Imsa was counting me in his 1-2 people, but I've springboarded from a few conversations with him back into some serious whoring, and it's going very well.

Additionally, jackybpho is on my ignore list, but I can see that he posted on this thread through the people who quoted his message...he claims to have made enough dough to buy a car. Keep in mind, however, that he is an admitted "gnome," signing up as many as a dozen accounts at each site with fake identities to claim multiple bonuses. If you think WE'RE bonus abusers...

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I assumed he was being sarcastic...

[jackybpho]

i'm not so sure about that...

[LinusKS]

Jacky, I hope you get busted, the casinos seize all your accounts, and you crash your Porsche. (Assuming you're not lying about that, which you probably are.)

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Jacky, I hope you get busted, the casinos seize all your accounts, and you crash your Porsche. (Assuming you're not lying about that, which you probably are.)

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hey einstein, how are they gonna seize funds that i have already brought back to my bank account? and for the record, it's a 2006 bmw 330i, not a porsche. and for what it's worth, i could care less if you believe me or not. and finally, i hope you crash the piece of crap car you drive right now and i hope i'm so fortunate enough to be able to see you limping around so that i can laugh at the gimp you are.

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well I gotta admit even though I like casino bonuses a lot, I understand why many people wouldn't. Most people I know would find it quite tedious and boring, and it's not like you can become rich doing this. But each to their own, I guess.

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Jacky, I hope you get busted, the casinos seize all your accounts, and you crash your Porsche. (Assuming you're not lying about that, which you probably are.)

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hey einstein, how are they gonna seize funds that i have already brought back to my bank account? and for the record, it's a 2006 bmw 330i, not a porsche. and for what it's worth, i could care less if you believe me or not. and finally, i hope you crash the piece of crap car you drive right now and i hope i'm so fortunate enough to be able to see you limping around so that i can laugh at the gimp you are.

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Wow, are you some trailer trash or what? Is being a gnome the only way you're capable of making money?

And are posts like this the only way you can feel good about yourself?

[BigDave]

When a majority of people here the words "Online Gambling" they immediatly think "rigged". It is a hard sell for some to think it was that easy to make money. I was skeptical at first, but I did my homework and found that it was not really very risky at all. Funny how much it has changed my life.

I remember telling my friends I made $1500 in a week and no one cared. I was "lucky". It wasn't until I hit the 5K mark and started buying cool [censored] when some people started listening, and even still most would not try.

I remember back in the day (which was a Tuesday) when $100 meant a lot more to me then it does now. To a lot of people depositing $100 in an online casino is a significant investment, and one that they do not feel comfortable about unless it is 100% fool proof that they will make money, which is impossible to promise. I believe that many people are too scared to lose $100, and this is why they will not try it. That and playing X,000's of hands of BJ or VP or war or whatever just isn't for everybody, no matter how much money is involved.

I am always looking for easy ways to make money on the internet. I have been unable to find an easier way thus far.

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Jacky, I hope you get busted, the casinos seize all your accounts, and you crash your Porsche. (Assuming you're not lying about that, which you probably are.)

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hey einstein, how are they gonna seize funds that i have already brought back to my bank account? and for the record, it's a 2006 bmw 330i, not a porsche. and for what it's worth, i could care less if you believe me or not. and finally, i hope you crash the piece of crap car you drive right now and i hope i'm so fortunate enough to be able to see you limping around so that i can laugh at the gimp you are.

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Wow, are you some trailer trash or what? Is being a gnome the only way you're capable of making money?

And are posts like this the only way you can feel good about yourself?

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Nope, as a matter of fact, I have a decent job, gnoming is just a pretty lucrative side/recreational 'job' i do in my spare time.

I don't need to post to feel good about myself...however i do feel pretty good about the recent increase in my bank account. oh yeah, the car doesn't hurt either.

[jackybpho]

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When a majority of people here the words "Online Gambling" they immediatly think "rigged". It is a hard sell for some to think it was that easy to make money. I was skeptical at first, but I did my homework and found that it was not really very risky at all. Funny how much it has changed my life.

I remember telling my friends I made $1500 in a week and no one cared. I was "lucky". It wasn't until I hit the 5K mark and started buying cool [censored] when some people started listening, and even still most would not try.

I remember back in the day (which was a Tuesday) when $100 meant a lot more to me then it does now. To a lot of people depositing $100 in an online casino is a significant investment, and one that they do not feel comfortable about unless it is 100% fool proof that they will make money, which is impossible to promise. I believe that many people are too scared to lose $100, and this is why they will not try it. That and playing X,000's of hands of BJ or VP or war or whatever just isn't for everybody, no matter how much money is involved.

I am always looking for easy ways to make money on the internet. I have been unable to find an easier way thus far.

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I agree, if people on here value $100 too much to take a chance, then they shouldn't. However, what can you buy with $100 these days? I can't even get 2 full tanks of gas with $100 these days...

[ImsaKidd]

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If it makes you guys feel any better, of the 10-15 people i worked with through my mentoring thread, i think one, maybe 2, are really sticking with it.

Making money is just not in some peoples blood.

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Clearly. You tell people there is a few thousand to be made in casino whoring and they say "Wow, teach me!"

Then you do, and they stop after 2-3 casinos.

Whatever.

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Not sure if Imsa was counting me in his 1-2 people, but I've springboarded from a few conversations with him back into some serious whoring, and it's going very well.

Additionally, jackybpho is on my ignore list, but I can see that he posted on this thread through the people who quoted his message...he claims to have made enough dough to buy a car. Keep in mind, however, that he is an admitted "gnome," signing up as many as a dozen accounts at each site with fake identities to claim multiple bonuses. If you think WE'RE bonus abusers...

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I assumed he was being sarcastic...

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Sorta. It was more like 20-25 PM's, 10 of them never went further than that. Maybe people just abandoned me after 1 email and are still whoring, iunno.

[kyleb]

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I don't need to post to feel good about myself...however i do feel pretty good about the recent increase in my bank account. oh yeah, the car doesn't hurt either.

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Then stop posting. Nobody cares about the size of your e-penis.

[Youre A Towel]

Same a**hole, nicer car.

[gimpoone]

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I don't need to post to feel good about myself...however i do feel pretty good about the recent increase in my bank account. oh yeah, the car doesn't hurt either.

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Then stop posting. Nobody cares about the size of your e-penis.

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my friend jacky has been banned for admitting to 'cheating'. i highly doubt nobody cares, he says he bets 80 PM's in a mere few days that people do care.

[koolsavas]

working min wage and clearing 250 a week in fast food is poop. at night, come home get onto whoring a casino, and hopefully clear that in an evening. i feel like a true whore! fast food: 8 bucks an hour; whoring: 25+/hr, betting $2 flat (call me a pu$$y). whoring is going to buy me a used toyota corolla and pay my insurance for the year. that's my prediction.

my bank account was down to a couple hundred before i got my crappy job, so i stuck a c-note in at starluck and built my roll from there. i feel great, and it's all thanks to whoring. try it risk free for thirty days and if not completely satisfied take your money and run, minus the shipping and handling. ok i'm on crack now!

gnoming is fraud and crime never pays. my new prediction is i will come by a 2006 bmw 330i at a police auction for hella cheap.