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hhughes
07-08-2006, 04:20 PM
I was looking around trying to find a new casino to play & came across Mansion.

They dont allow BJ, but do allow VP.

I've always played BJ or Pontoon to do the casino bonuses, but now I am thinking about playing VP. I have played for fun at WOW many times, but now want to try real money.

A couple of questions:

Where does one find the pay table for the VP at Mansion(or anywhere else for that matter...)

I know I should play max coins, but should it be at the lowest denomination allowed?

Has anyone played at Mansion? If so, what was the experience like? (fast payouts, software, etc.)

Any comments welcome.... /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Meant to say WOO, not WOW...my bad

Lessu
07-08-2006, 04:25 PM
Don't know about the casino stuff but you need to have a scanned copy of an ID to be able to withdraw. after you submit that the cashout was pretty fast.

BlissY
07-08-2006, 04:53 PM
This is a very good casino. Very fast payouts, within 24 hours both times I have withdrawn from there. You need to send them ID to be able to withdraw.

I cleared the bonus playing Casino War. It has the lowest house advantage of the allowed games. EV is about $300 for the 3 deposit bonuses.

WiSeIVIaN
07-08-2006, 05:14 PM
Last time I checked VP has a lower HA then war...

brendanb438
07-08-2006, 06:08 PM
There is a really really nice $90 signup bonus through an affiliate for Mansion Casino, you just have to wager $50 to get this either at the poker table, casino or sportsbook.

I don't know how or why Mansion would allow this, but I was able to clear it at Roulette betting $24 black, $24 red and $2 on 0. I received my credit for this 2 days after I completed this and then the $90 cash in my Neteller 24 hours after that.

You still qualify for all the normal signup bonuses through Mansion also. If you want more info on the free $90 PM me.

Brendan

WiSeIVIaN
07-08-2006, 06:16 PM
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There is a really really nice $90 signup bonus through an affiliate for Mansion Casino, you just have to wager $50 to get this either at the poker table, casino or sportsbook.

I don't know how or why Mansion would allow this, but I was able to clear it at Roulette betting $24 black, $24 red and $2 on 0. I received my credit for this 2 days after I completed this and then the $90 cash in my Neteller 24 hours after that.

You still qualify for all the normal signup bonuses through Mansion also. If you want more info on the free $90 PM me.

Brendan

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I assume your talking about going through pokersavy and you want people to PM you so that you can refer them and get credit without getting flamed? Pretty smooth but I've seen smoother. At any rate, rakereduction also have rakeback available for mansion, so thats an option too if you play poker.

hhughes
07-08-2006, 07:35 PM
Really appreciate the replies so far...

From what I have read, VP is the way to go for this bonus.

Still want to know(if anyone does know) what the pay table is at Mansion.

I would also like to know where to look for pay tables at other sites that won't let you play BJ/Pontoon, but does allow VP.

Is there a specific area for most casinos to find the pay tables, or does it vary from site to site?

Thanks again

Uston
07-08-2006, 07:42 PM
Casino War is so unbelievably fast and mindless that it was worth a small hit to my EV. As for the pay tables, log into the casino, open the game you want, then compare it to the charts for said game on wizardofodds.

brendanb438
07-08-2006, 11:29 PM
Wise i could care less about the referral from the affiliate. The free $90 is the easiest out there right now and some people could really really use it. I could refer a hundred people and that wouldn't be what I have made in the last 3 days between Party bonus, a casino bonus and some amazing in gaming betting on the World Cup today. Oh yeah and the grand I have on POTC2 that is gonna be a huge huge payday come Monday.

Brendan

2+2 wannabe
07-08-2006, 11:51 PM
stupid question - can you just deposit 3 times right off the bat and play off the requirement for all 3 at the same time?

brendanb438
07-08-2006, 11:53 PM
2+2 I believe you can stack all three right away and once you clear one you then start on the next one. Halo would know for sure.

Brendan

Halo7
07-09-2006, 12:28 AM
There are advantages to doing the bonuses one at a time because of the way that Mansion credits them. I have a full review of it on my site, but in a nutshell you ask them to "promote" the bonuses after you have met the WR, then you have to wager the bonus one time to make it cashable. If you deposit one at a time, you can concurrently clear the 1x to make it cashable along with the first part of the WR for the next bonus. I am not sure if the same applies if you deposit all 3 before starting play. Since it only takes another minute or 2 to do them in order, I thought it would be safer to do it the way the bonus was "intended" to be played. If someone wants to try depositing all 3 at once and see if they process it differently, worst case would mean an additional $275 in WR, but every little bit counts.

BTW all, if you haven't done this one yet, do it now. I don't think it will last. /images/graemlins/ooo.gif

Halo7

2+2 wannabe
07-09-2006, 06:25 PM
stupid question - does the pending casino bonus come up anywhere in the account statement? I don't see it anywhere....

321Mike
07-09-2006, 08:09 PM
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stupid question - does the pending casino bonus come up anywhere in the account statement? I don't see it anywhere....

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It's under the "earned bonus" tab in the "my account" window. It shows the WR and how much you've wagered as well.

hhughes
07-10-2006, 12:21 PM
An update...

Played the initial bonus at Mansion on Saturday...my first attempt at JoB VP for real money...+215 including the bonus.

Sent them an ID the next day, got verified today...made a withdrawal like 3 hours ago, and it has already hit my Neteller!!!!

Probably will make the 2nd deposit this evening!

FWIW

2+2 wannabe
07-10-2006, 04:18 PM
you can withdraw, then deposit again? i.e. you don't have to deposit 3 times before you withdraw?

ImsaKidd
07-10-2006, 05:45 PM
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you can withdraw, then deposit again? i.e. you don't have to deposit 3 times before you withdraw?

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Sounds like this is correct.

2+2 wannabe
07-10-2006, 05:49 PM
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you can withdraw, then deposit again? i.e. you don't have to deposit 3 times before you withdraw?

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Sounds like this is correct.

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thanks

pjpj
07-10-2006, 06:37 PM
Is this a cashable or sticky?

sirej
07-10-2006, 07:33 PM
Cashable.

hhughes
07-10-2006, 07:35 PM
Now Im assuming here...which can be a bad thing when casino whoring... /images/graemlins/grin.gif

I saw no where on the site where you had to deposit 3 times before you withdrew to receive all 3 bonuses.

Though I did not read the T&C with a fine tooth comb...

BTW, it is cashable, but BJ is not allowed. VP is OK.

Update...

I contacted CS live chat just now and was told that when I deposit I will receive the other bonuses offered.

FWIW

Halo7
07-10-2006, 08:13 PM
When I did it, it was deposit #1, clear bonus #1, promote bonus #1, deposit #2, clear bonus #2, promote bonus #2, deposit #3, clear bonus #3, promote bonus #3, 1x playthrough of bonus #3, cash out a crapload.

Halo7

Yobz
07-10-2006, 08:24 PM
I decided to take the hit in EV since I hate VP and play war. I'm exactly break even after the 2nd deposit and bonus (550)

Frogic
07-10-2006, 09:07 PM
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Played the initial bonus at Mansion on Saturday...my first attempt at JoB VP for real money...+215 including the bonus.

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They have a crippled JoB at Mansion, I believe their Deuces Wild has a better HA. Also doubling counts towards the WR at this casino which is HOT.

Frogic

321Mike
07-10-2006, 09:25 PM
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Also doubling counts towards the WR at this casino which is HOT.

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Are you sure on this one? Live chat told me doubling does not count toward the WR. Their system makes it easy to confirm either way, but I didn't bother to check.

Also, live chat confirmed that withdrawing does not affect your ability to get the 2nd and 3rd bonuses. I'm waiting on a cashout after clearing the first bonus. I'll deposit for second bonus as soon as it hits Neteller.

2+2 wannabe
07-10-2006, 09:52 PM
so, before you cash out, you have to play through $100 for the first bonus right?

well I've played through $150 since being given the bonus, and it still hasn't changed to withdrawable

has anyone else had this problem?

bb88
07-10-2006, 09:58 PM
You have to contact CS via email or live chat (live chat is easier) and have them "promote" it, so you use the bonus money to wager. After that, you wager it 1x and it's withdrawable.

Uston
07-10-2006, 11:08 PM
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so, before you cash out, you have to play through $100 for the first bonus right?

well I've played through $150 since being given the bonus, and it still hasn't changed to withdrawable

has anyone else had this problem?

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Assuming you contacted live support after betting the $1,500 and before betting the $150 I'm having the exact problem right now. Probably a glitch in the software. If mine isn't withdrawable tomorrow I'll contact CS.

hhughes
07-11-2006, 12:05 AM
"Promote"?

What exactly does that mean? They will let you use the bonus money to wager before you meet the WR?

Please explain...

Frogic
07-11-2006, 12:10 AM
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Are you sure on this one? Live chat told me doubling does not count toward the WR. Their system makes it easy to confirm either way, but I didn't bother to check.


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It counted on their system last week, they might have changed it.

Frogic

JackOfSpeed
07-11-2006, 12:11 AM
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"Promote"?

What exactly does that mean? They will let you use the bonus money to wager before you meet the WR?

Please explain...

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It's hard to explain why. But all you need to know here is that AFTER you have cleared your standard Wagering Requirement (you can see that pretty clearly in My Account section), you need to call/email/speak to live chat and ask them to Promote your bonus. AFTER they do that (they'll do it immediately), THEN you need to wager the amount of the bonus.

It doesn't make much sense, but that's the way it is at Mansion.

hhughes
07-11-2006, 12:20 AM
Cant you just play the 1xWR and then withdraw?

I just have never heard of this phrase before, and I know I didnt use it when I did the 1st withdrawal at Mansion...

Halo7
07-11-2006, 01:24 AM
Think of your Bankroll as a stack of chips. Their default when they give you the bonus is to put your bonus on the bottom of the stack. So when you wager, you are wagering with your money first, and can never play through the bonus 1x since they are on the bottom of the stack until all of your funds are gone. Promoting the bonus moves it to the top of your chip stack so you are wagering with it first, not your money.

Halo7

cap11
07-11-2006, 01:54 AM
Halo, that is an excellent description.

I did this one a week ago....very nice bonus.

sunnypoker
07-11-2006, 02:10 AM
so what is the verdict?

JoB or deuces wild?

hhughes
07-11-2006, 02:30 AM
I played JoB...went by the recommendations at CBP.

Im not sure why Frogic claims that the JoB is "crippled".

Im by no means a VP expert, but I went to WOO & compared their pay table at Mansion with them...sure looked like a 9/6 pay table to me.

Maybe Frogic could explain this better...You still around?
Im curious about this as well. Maybe you could share your knowledge?

sunnypoker
07-11-2006, 02:40 AM
Q about VP...
is the hole aim is to play until you hit a big one?

because i get a feeling that it's one of those games where u'll see your money head downwards alot quicker,until you get lucky and hit the big ones like full house or higher...

also, is doubling ever recommended?

cap11
07-11-2006, 02:57 AM
Join casino bonus pages and you can learn about some VP strategies.

bb88
07-11-2006, 03:02 AM
I did Casino War and used an auto-clicker to bet for me and had absolutely no problems. The HA is a little higher, but it's virtually 5 minutes of effort and you can just do whatever else while it wagers automatically.

2+2 wannabe
07-11-2006, 03:12 AM
where do you get an autoclicker?

grinin
07-11-2006, 04:10 AM
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sure looked like a 9/6 pay table to me.



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If I remember correctly, its a 40/20/9/6 which adds another 1.5% to the HA for a total return of around 98%

The deuces wild is a better pay table

TomR
07-11-2006, 09:09 AM
Their Deuces Wild returns 98.45% while their JoB returns 98.25% (JoB pays less than a full paytable on straight flushes and four of a kind) but the variance on Deuces Wild is higher.

I had good luck on both. Hit a $2k Royal on JoB and a $500 4 deuces on DW, netted $2k overall. Today I love variance.

And their withdrawals are fast!

lumpy19
07-11-2006, 12:33 PM
For those that have made a withdrawal, did you wait 3 days after you sent ID verification or did you withdraw right away?

hhughes
07-11-2006, 12:52 PM
I actually didnt have to wait long at all...once they confirmed that they had received my ID, I made a withdrawal request & ~3 hours later it was in my Neteller.

Very quick cashout...hope this helps

Ken_AA
07-11-2006, 01:18 PM
What happens if you bust? Will you not receive the bonus money? or do you redeposit to finish the firs tbonus, and does that deposit could as your second deposit?

That seems confusing to me.

Ken

Packard
07-11-2006, 01:23 PM
Casino War has some intense variance. I am down a little after bonuses after my first two deposits playing the miniumum bet at war.

To paraphrase the afformentioned advice on this thread- go to live chat after your bonuses clear and they will promote them then you play a little bit more and you get the bonus

lumpy19
07-11-2006, 03:43 PM
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I actually didnt have to wait long at all...once they confirmed that they had received my ID, I made a withdrawal request & ~3 hours later it was in my Neteller.

Very quick cashout...hope this helps

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Actually it does help, thank you. I'll be attempting a withdrawal when I get home.

321Mike
07-11-2006, 09:26 PM
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I actually didnt have to wait long at all...once they confirmed that they had received my ID, I made a withdrawal request & ~3 hours later it was in my Neteller.


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I've been waiting for 3 days for an email saying they have accepted my ID. After reading this I logged in and requested a cashout. Looks like it went through.

I shouldn't have been so patient. I probably could have had my money 2 days ago.

chigori
07-11-2006, 09:41 PM
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where do you get an autoclicker?

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chigori
07-12-2006, 06:49 AM
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where do you get an autoclicker?

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gotit...

lumpy19
07-12-2006, 08:17 AM
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I actually didnt have to wait long at all...once they confirmed that they had received my ID, I made a withdrawal request & ~3 hours later it was in my Neteller.


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I've been waiting for 3 days for an email saying they have accepted my ID. After reading this I logged in and requested a cashout. Looks like it went through.

I shouldn't have been so patient. I probably could have had my money 2 days ago.

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Same here. After reading this thread I requested a cashout and it's back into my neteller.

Wilco666
07-12-2006, 09:51 AM
After all three bonuses I am at -200. Today I hate variance.

JackOfSpeed
07-12-2006, 11:18 AM
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After all three bonuses I am at -200. Today I hate variance.

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I played Video Poker (JoB until I learned that the Deuces machine had a slightly better return) and killed the first two bonuses for $550 total (including the bonuses). Real bad run on the last one, but still ended up $10 with the bonus added in. Nice find, OP. The casino software is real solid too. But the poker software is real [censored]ty, and there's no bonus there, FWIW.

hhughes
07-12-2006, 01:15 PM
JOS...

Really didn't "find" Mansion, just looked at some of the more popular casino sites...glad you did well. Perhaps I can get a referral fee?? /images/graemlins/wink.gif

BTW, for those who havent started this, you might want to look through this thread, there are ways of getting some extra $ through affiliates...though I screwed up trying to do this...my own fault. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

I am not an affiliate there....

Yobz
07-12-2006, 02:37 PM
Solid casino, great software, fast cashouts (after you send in ID). If I ever want to gamble online for the hell of it (instead of just trying to make money), this will be the casino I go to.

2+2 wannabe
07-12-2006, 04:30 PM
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Solid casino, great software, fast cashouts (after you send in ID). If I ever want to gamble online for the hell of it (instead of just trying to make money), this will be the casino I go to.

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I agree with everything said here

SoloAJ
07-12-2006, 04:51 PM
If anyone would be nice enough to link me to a free autoclicker (if there is one)...I am coming up empty...Therefore playing VP until I find one.

AmonRaa
07-12-2006, 05:01 PM
It is nice casino. Live chat is helpfull. Just too bad i cant grasp the concept of variance. Everybody keep talking about downswings and upswings yet every casino I attempted i was -EV (note though that I still made some money just not in the range ov EV). Some ppl are born unlucky I guess.

Casino War trully is a zombie game - even more than BJ.

2+2 wannabe
07-12-2006, 05:05 PM
This (http://quality-shareware.com/programs/aarons-cliker.asp) is the one that I've been using - it's free for 30 days

Packard
07-12-2006, 08:52 PM
That Aarons clicker is free and top quality for its purpose of Casino War.

Thanks Halo7 for the autoclicker information along with the Mansion Casino info at www.casinobonuswhores.com (http://www.casinobonuswhores.com)

SoloAJ
07-12-2006, 09:16 PM
Thanks for the help gents...

I finished all three up a total of $278 (so I lost about half the bonus money).

I played a mix of casino war automated with the clicker and $1 -5 bet JoB....

Sent my ID about 15 minutes ago and will be awaiting cashout soon...

chigori
07-12-2006, 10:26 PM
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Sent my ID about 15 minutes ago and will be awaiting cashout soon...

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Do they send you an email requesting the ID or does it state it somewhere in their T&C. Requested my cashout but haven't seen any emails from them yet...

SoloAJ
07-12-2006, 10:53 PM
When you went to make a withdrawal (the point where you input how much you want to get out) it says on the right side that withdrawals will be denied if you do not send them a photo ID thing. It also says something like "check the help for more info on this" and if you go to the help section it tell you basically that you need to send photo id or else you're rejected....

I dont know. I am going to try withdrawing now even though its only been about 2 hours....

Hopefully it works, if not..I dunno.

hhughes
07-13-2006, 12:06 AM
Solo...

I would go ahead and talk with someone in live chat. Explain that you have sent your ID and would like to know if they could see if the email/scan has been received yet.

If so, then ask if its OK to withdraw now...

From my experience, they will probably tell you to contact them again the in the morning.

FWIW

SoloAJ
07-13-2006, 12:54 AM
Well I did that, and they said they were really busy so far so it probably wasn't at the financial dept. yet. But when it was they would email me....

I got an email though saying something about how in some cases they require more identification. If they dont let me know in the next 3 days then I can cash out. But they might require more ID...

Is this the standard email or did I get a special one?

bb88
07-13-2006, 01:05 AM
Thats the one I got, too, and they didn't require any additional information.

2+2 wannabe
07-13-2006, 05:55 AM
wow this is a great casino! with the autoclicker I can beat off and STILL BE MAKING MONEY!!

for those who have done this via casino war, have you noticed that over 1/2 of the wars happen when the dealer gets the EXACT SAME SUIT as you? seriously, over half of my wars had me and the dealer with the exact same cards

chigori
07-13-2006, 06:15 AM
Never provided any ID.

I just did a cashout yesterday and it took around 4 hours for the cashout to hit my Neteller account. I didn't send any ID or other documentation to them, just deposit (3x), play and cashout...

SoloAJ
07-13-2006, 11:41 AM
I kind of wish I would have stuck to Casino War. I was showing a lot less variance than I did at VP. At VP I hit quads on like the 2nd hand and then still finished down shortly thereafter getting not much beyond pairs.

Like I said before, I still finished up almost $300, so I can't complain...especially since most of it was sitting on my laptop clearing HWP bonus.

Ken_AA
07-13-2006, 06:40 PM
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I kind of wish I would have stuck to Casino War. I was showing a lot less variance than I did at VP. At VP I hit quads on like the 2nd hand and then still finished down shortly thereafter getting not much beyond pairs.

Like I said before, I still finished up almost $300, so I can't complain...especially since most of it was sitting on my laptop clearing HWP bonus.

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Ya, I stuck to casino war. Final total, with Bonuses I finished up 691 bucks. I bet 30 bucks a hand on WAR, 3 hands at a time. ( I bet 5 on the first hand, 10 on the second, and 15 on the third so it got more and more exciting as the cards were dealt out).

Ken

LinusKS
07-14-2006, 04:34 PM
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I had good luck on both. Hit a $2k Royal on JoB and a $500 4 deuces on DW, netted $2k overall. Today I love variance.



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You know, on all the thousands of hands of VP I've played.. including multi-liners.. I've never hit a Royal once, ever.

Bastard.

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BigDave
07-14-2006, 04:42 PM
I double the [censored] out of JoB, looking at a $1200 cashout. They asked me for ID.

wmspringer
07-14-2006, 10:09 PM
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You know, on all the thousands of hands of VP I've played.. including multi-liners.. I've never hit a Royal once, ever.

Bastard.

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I've hit 3 in the last two days /images/graemlins/grin.gif

But they were all using wildcards in deuces wild, so they didn't pay quite as much.

brendanb438
07-14-2006, 10:51 PM
Is everyone getting the extra $90 from the pokersavy? Wager $50 and get $90. This was easy money just like Mansion's bonuses. PM me if you need info on the $90 bonus on top of Mansion's bonus.

Brendan

AmonRaa
07-15-2006, 08:57 AM
Or...you can pm me /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Free 90$

WiSeIVIaN
07-15-2006, 12:37 PM
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Or...you can pm me /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Free 90$

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Or your can just go to pokersavy.com....

wmspringer
07-15-2006, 12:48 PM
First deposit: 2 days ago
Cashout hit neteller this morning :-)

SoloAJ
07-15-2006, 02:13 PM
Edit: Somehow I missed it. I got it a couple hours ago.
Yeehaw.

flight2q
07-15-2006, 02:47 PM
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I double the [censored] out of JoB, looking at a $1200 cashout. They asked me for ID.

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Mansion doesn't count doubling bets toward the WR. Glad you had fun!

Myself, I only got one 4-of-a-kind in 1134 spins and am down net of bonus. Still have the third bonus to do, and perhaps will do it at Casino War.

Guruman
07-15-2006, 11:22 PM
someone please pm me and I'll sign up through ya

FortFun
07-15-2006, 11:49 PM
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someone please pm me and I'll sign up through ya

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sent /images/graemlins/cool.gif

Guruman
07-16-2006, 01:03 PM
pms recieved. thanks guys

HRFats
07-18-2006, 06:24 PM
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someone please pm me and I'll sign up through ya

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kyleb
07-18-2006, 08:22 PM
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someone please pm me and I'll sign up through ya

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FortFun
07-18-2006, 10:03 PM
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someone please pm me and I'll sign up through ya

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Sent /images/graemlins/cool.gif

FortFun
07-18-2006, 10:03 PM
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someone please pm me and I'll sign up through ya

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Sent /images/graemlins/cool.gif

mikezee
07-18-2006, 11:32 PM
Savvy site now says casino bets do not count towards the $50 required wagering. Did it say this for anyone else, or is that new? (Still the $50 shouldn't be too hard; you can also do it by "generating" $10 in rake - does anyone know if that's contributed rake or rake on hands you played?)

HRFats
07-19-2006, 12:07 AM
I noticed the same thing. I'm also curious about the $10 rake...