Shady VP at Yachting Casino

[WhoIam]

I'm now about 1/3 of the way through a bonus at Yachting Casino (yachting-casino.com) which I'm clearing playing jacks or better video poker. I've played about 700 hands so far and I haven't had one 4-flush or 4-straight complete. Not one. At first I was thinking "wow, it seems like I haven't been hitting these" and I then began specifically paying attention every time I was in this situation. I'd estimate I've seen 40 or 50 4-flushes so far. The odds of not making a flush on one are astronomical.

What can I do? It's not like I could get them to give my money back. Should I just cash out $85 over the bonus money I have and accept a $315 loss?

[TruePoker CEO]

WHAT are the odds of seeing 40 or 50 four flushes or open ended straights in the first 5 cards dealt over 700 hands ?

[krazyace5]

Keep playing! with 40-50 4 flushes not hitting the next one is bound to!!


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[studmuffin]

I busted out at yachting casino. I played mostly VP, but did some carribbean stud towards the end. I noticed the exact same thing about flushes, though.

[krazyace5]

You can probably get better info/help here.

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/

[Dicksome]

Yup, I had the exact same experience during my bonus there last month. I noticed it early on and began counting, eventually giving up after ~70 unsuccessful straight/flush draws.

As if to make up for this "abnormality" I found that I would come up with huge hands FAR too often in situations where I had trash--

Hold a single K, draw to a straight
Muck everything, draw 5 spades
Hold a single Q, draw four 6's (this happened twice)

No doubt whatsoever that something shady is going on there.

[WhoIam]

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Yup, I had the exact same experience during my bonus there last month. I noticed it early on and began counting, eventually giving up after ~70 unsuccessful straight/flush draws.

As if to make up for this "abnormality" I found that I would come up with huge hands FAR too often in situations where I had trash--

Hold a single K, draw to a straight
Muck everything, draw 5 spades
Hold a single Q, draw four 6's (this happened twice)


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This happened to me as well--it was the only way I made big hands. I would draw 3 or 4 cards and kept ending up with straights and flushes. I did end up making a handful of 4- flush and straight draws, but these were literally about 1% of the draws. Oddly I think I had a 4-flush about every 10 hands and this continued through the roughly 2000 hands I played.

I ended up busting out right before the bonus cleared which is what I figured would happen. Since other people noticed the same bizarre behavior, I'm going to contact casino dave and casino bonus pages to get a warning out about this place.

[LinusKS]

Hmm, doing French sites, eh? Unless you can prove you speak French, CM is not going to be happy with you.

I can't tell what software they're using. Is it proprietary?

[krazyace5]

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Hmm, doing French sites, eh? Unless you can prove you speak French, CM is not going to be happy with you.

I can't tell what software they're using. Is it proprietary?

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When you go to the site they have a button to click for English.

[Yobz]

The sign up bonus on this is so good I decided to play JoB VP in demo mode to see how bad it was. In total I had about 25 (I stopped counting after 20, but I think I had about 5 more) 4-flushes or 4-straights on the initial hand with ZERO of them hitting. This seems very unlikely: we should really have CM check them out and make sure they are legit, this is ultra-sketch.

[southport]

http://www.casinomeister.com/rogue/3wgroup.html

[Thremp]

I found the same at Ts or better.

Seems marginally fishy software. Maybe CM can investigate and we can all get a refund. PM me if someone wants to get together to complain full on.

[ImsaKidd]

I remember seeing some stats somewhere that proved this place was cheating. I think it was the old BW forums.

[kiddj]

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You can probably get better info/help here.

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/

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I did not see any discussion on casinomeister about Yachting. Is there a B3W software flaw?

Did anyone get any further info on their obvious flush-draw issues? How come this casino is not blacklisted on CBP????

[kyleb]

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You can probably get better info/help here.

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/

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I did not see any discussion on casinomeister about Yachting. Is there a B3W software flaw?

Did anyone get any further info on their obvious flush-draw issues? How come this casino is not blacklisted on CBP????

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http://www.casinomeister.com/rogue/3wgroup.html

Someone posted this link above. It clearly says that it is rogued software.

[kiddj]

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You can probably get better info/help here.

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/

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I did not see any discussion on casinomeister about Yachting. Is there a B3W software flaw?

Did anyone get any further info on their obvious flush-draw issues? How come this casino is not blacklisted on CBP????

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http://www.casinomeister.com/rogue/3wgroup.html

Someone posted this link above. It clearly says that it is rogued software.

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Thanks, I must have overlooked that link. That is from August, 2003 though. The casino or its software are not listed on casinomeister's current rogued lists.

The screen shots do not match what I'm currently showing as Yachting's VP. Also, the issue is not what is being claimed on that link: it's the incredible statistical issue with drawing hands, specifically (from my experience) 4-flush draws.

[Luxorr]

I had pretty much the same experience at all of the B3W casinos.. Lost almost $600 of my $800 half way through the WR at Yachting.. Dont think I hit more than one 4 flush. Built it back up a bit at BJ and proceeded to bust out the last $400 at War. I then recieved an e-mail saying that their casino war was not paying out correctly and they credited my account with $220! Go figure..