Happy 4th of July! Casino Bonus 100% up to $200 BJ Cashable

[sorry4me]

Happy 4th of July!
I found a new skin of 888.com offering a 100% $200 sign-up bonus. This is a seperate casino but 888.com provides customer support and software. Its a cashable bonus (allows bj)with a 20x wager requirement. Deposits via neteller does not invoke a WR penalty as 888.com does however this could change soon!

In addition, to the $200 bonus there is also a $15 refer a friend bonus. So PM me(first name + email)if you want to make your bonus $215. You will recieve an email from their site with the invite. The RAF bonus has a 20x WR also.

21.com is the site. I just finished the bonus and thought some of you might want to know.

Good Luck!

[Action Scott]

can't find the T and C anywhere on the site, got a link? Looks like a good bonus though.

[sorry4me]

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can't find the T and C anywhere on the site, got a link? Looks like a good bonus though.

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look at the bottom of the web page (policies & legal)

[sorry4me]

I'm going to remain online for the next couple of hours, so I'll be able to quickly grant any more RAF requests. I'll try to get them to you within 5 min. Thanks to those who have already PMed me.

[winchips]

is this 20x b or 20x b+d?
thanks

[chigori]

20xB

[sorry4me]

I keep getting the same questions. Yes you may have never heard of this site before. 888.com customer service told me that 21.com is a new site. It is as safe as 888.com is. If you have been bonus banned at 888.com you might be able to play here since customer service says it is a seperate casino, but I'm not 100% sure.

[sorry4me]

This site is very new. It looks like their RAF form isn't working (although I am getting confirmations after submitting). So please no more PMs. Still it is a very nice bonus with or without the RAF bonus. Enjoy!

[136913691369]

Whenever an initial deposit is made via NETELLER, Opening Deposit Welcome Bonuses, 21.com-Day Bonuses ($88 Bonuses) and Happy Hour Bonuses, bonuses are eligible for cash out only when 20 times the amount of the bonus has been wagered.
All other 21.com bonus programs require a wager of at least two (2) times the bonus amount. For example, a $50 bonus requires a $100 wager before the bonus is eligible for a cash out.

Does this mean if I deposit with anything but neteller I only have to wager the bonus 2x?

[sorry4me]

No. The second 2x WR refers to bonus programs not mentioned in the first sentence.

[winchips]

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Whenever an initial deposit is made via NETELLER, Opening Deposit Welcome Bonuses, 21.com-Day Bonuses ($88 Bonuses) and Happy Hour Bonuses, bonuses are eligible for cash out only when 20 times the amount of the bonus has been wagered.
All other 21.com bonus programs require a wager of at least two (2) times the bonus amount. For example, a $50 bonus requires a $100 wager before the bonus is eligible for a cash out.

Does this mean if I deposit with anything but neteller I only have to wager the bonus 2x?

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no you are doing the welcome bonus, the 2x is for other bonus programs....so its 20x.

Are we sure it is 20x and not 50x via neteller? It seems that it could be 50x because on the deposit page when you click on bonus policy it gives the CON bonus policy

[Dave Coulier]

Ive never quite understood this part of their TOC. To me it seems their talking about other bonus programs outside of the ODWP, Day Bonus, Happy Hour bonus, but I dont know of any other bonus's that they do have..so im pretty confused by it. I love confusing ToC's.

[whoisthedrizzle]

anyone cashed out of here successfully yet?

[Linksys]

Anyone having any trouble running this thing? I download and install it and it gives me an error and says it has to close.

[sorry4me]

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Whenever an initial deposit is made via NETELLER, Opening Deposit Welcome Bonuses, 21.com-Day Bonuses ($88 Bonuses) and Happy Hour Bonuses, bonuses are eligible for cash out only when 20 times the amount of the bonus has been wagered.
All other 21.com bonus programs require a wager of at least two (2) times the bonus amount. For example, a $50 bonus requires a $100 wager before the bonus is eligible for a cash out.

Does this mean if I deposit with anything but neteller I only have to wager the bonus 2x?

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no you are doing the welcome bonus, the 2x is for other bonus programs....so its 20x.

Are we sure it is 20x and not 50x via neteller? It seems that it could be 50x because on the deposit page when you click on bonus policy it gives the CON bonus policy

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Yes, customer service confirmed it with me however they seemed unaware that it was different from 888 until I pointed them to the 21.com site. Like I've said this is new.

[Homer]

I deposited and received no bonus. YMMV.

[Dave Coulier]

I had no problem installing it. Sorry to hear your having problems. I guess your comp is just like mine. Very selective about which casinos to install.

[chigori]

Just talked to their live support and I can confirm the referral bonus is still on ($15) and the bonus requirements are 20 times the bonus, any deposit method. I specifically mentioned Neteller to them and they said it was 20X.

[Linksys]

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I had no problem installing it. Sorry to hear your having problems. I guess your comp is just like mine. Very selective about which casinos to install.

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oh it installed it fine. it just can't run it.

[sorry4me]

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Just talked to their live support and I can confirm the referral bonus is still on ($15) and the bonus requirements are 20 times the bonus, any deposit method. I specifically mentioned Neteller to them and they said it was 20X.

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So I quess you beat the RAF bonus out of them?

[chigori]

First they denied having the RAF. I just pointed them to their own T&C and got this reply:

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I must apologize for the misinformation since initially, the Invite a Friend bonus was not being offered however, it has now been included therefore, once you friend uses the Invite a Friend tab to register your email address, and you register via the email address provided using a different IP address, you both will be eligible for the bonus.


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[chigori]

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I deposited and received no bonus. YMMV.

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Deposited $200 through Neteller and got $200 bonus added within the minute. Playing now... super slow interface though, if anybody knows how to change the settings to faster play, please let me know...

[Dave Coulier]

I haven't found a way to speed up the interface, so were probably hosed on it.

[Brice]

Would this bonus be worth it for a new player with a pretty sizable bankroll (built from poker)?

[sorry4me]

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Would this bonus be worth it for a new player with a pretty sizable bankroll (built from poker)?

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This bonus has a +EV so if you know what you are doing then it is worth it.

[sorry4me]

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I haven't found a way to speed up the interface, so were probably hosed on it.

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Sorry, I quess it is slow. I was betting $10/hand when I cleared it.

[chigori]

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Sorry, I quess it is slow. I was betting $10/hand when I cleared it.

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How'd you do? Cashed out already?

[bosoxfan]

So the refer-a-freind is working or not? someone want to refer me if it is?

[sorry4me]

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Sorry, I quess it is slow. I was betting $10/hand when I cleared it.

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How'd you do? Cashed out already?

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+170, I requested the cashout right before my initial post. Since 888.com handles everything admin wise I'm not concerned about the safety of my money. But, I'll post when I recieve my money. I almost didn't post this one but I fiqured this bonus would be hard to kill since 888's bonus is still alive and almost everyone does the 888 bonus.

[Ad Alta]

Deposited, no bonus given.

[ripridah]

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Deposited, no bonus given.

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me too, i'm trying to contact live support now

[ripridah]

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Deposited, no bonus given.

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me too, i'm trying to contact live support now

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support says i already have an account and can't get another sign up bonus. blah.

[sorry4me]

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So the refer-a-freind is working or not? someone want to refer me if it is?

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I'm not 100% sure if it works but I just finished a chat session with support and they claim that it is but of course just a few hours ago cs seemed unaware of 21.com existience. If anyone actually recieves an email let me know. It's just not worth it though if we have to beat each RAF bonus out of them.

[sorry4me]

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Deposited, no bonus given.

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me too, i'm trying to contact live support now

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support says i already have an account and can't get another sign up bonus. blah.

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Is this bonus dead already? Just as info, when I signed up I did not use the same screen name as I did for 888. I'm not sure if it matters though?

It's strange if some of us can get it and others can't.

[Ad Alta]

I did not use the same screen name, email, or address as for Casino-on-net, since I signed up for CON 3 or 4 years ago, and my email and address have changed since then. Still no bonus. I emailed them, but I expect to be told I already have an account there. (I did use the same Neteller and name.)

[sorry4me]

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I did not use the same screen name, email, or address as for Casino-on-net, since I signed up for CON 3 or 4 years ago, and my email and address have changed since then. Still no bonus. I emailed them, but I expect to be told I already have an account there. (I did use the same Neteller and name.)

[/ QUOTE ] Hmm... I used neteller this time and firepay for 888. I quess they didn't have a 50x WR for neteller back when you did the 888 bonus.

[peregrine]

Casino.net and Casino-on-net are two different casinos, aren't they?

[chigori]

If you go to 21.com, it says 20xB wager requirements... but if you go to a link in the cashier section of the application (T&C of the bonus advertisement), it states this:

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All Initial Deposit Welcome Bonuses, 888-Day Bonuses ($88 Bonus) and Happy Hour Bonuses received via funds Deposited by NETELLER or Moneybookers may be Cashed Out only after an amount totaling no less than 50 times the Bonus amount has been wagered.


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Probably the link connects back to 888.com... but still confusing. Don't want to play $4000 in wagers only to realize I need to do $6000 more.

[Ad Alta]

I believe the signup was something rediculous like 2xB. and it might have been $888, too. Casino-on-net is different than Casino.net, yes. 888.com being the more trustworthy of the two.

[sorry4me]

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If you go to 21.com, it says 20xB wager requirements... but if you go to a link in the cashier section of the application (T&C of the bonus advertisement), it states this:

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All Initial Deposit Welcome Bonuses, 888-Day Bonuses ($88 Bonus) and Happy Hour Bonuses received via funds Deposited by NETELLER or Moneybookers may be Cashed Out only after an amount totaling no less than 50 times the Bonus amount has been wagered.


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Probably the link connects back to 888.com... but still confusing. Don't want to play $4000 in wagers only to realize I need to do $6000 more.

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I don't see the 50x info on 21.com's site however if you go to the cashier while running their software the links are for 888.com. It is confusing, perhaps 888.com didn't think things through enough when they decided to offer to power 21.com's site. Does anyone know if 888 has ever "powered" another gambling site?

[Dave Coulier]

21.com TOC shows 20x, but if you click on the Bonus Policy within the software it says 50x. I would suggest contacting customer support and mentioning that you signed up expecting a 20x playthru. I did and they confirmed that I can play by the ToC listed on 21.com, so it is 20x. Just make sure to get it confirmed with CS first to avoid headaches in the future.

[JackOfSpeed]

anyone want to hook me up with a referral? Pm me.

[gila]

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Deposited, no bonus given.

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[Linksys]

so whats the consensus? i can't get this stupid software to run. should i just give up because if i deposit i won't get the bonus anyway if I have a previous CON account?

if i get it to work and deposit and they don't credit the bonus can i cash out right away?

[sorry4me]

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Deposited, no bonus given.

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I quess they randomly select people to pick on. Did you plead your case with cs? Did you specify you were signing up at 21.com? Has 888 bonus banned you from their site?

[brendanb438]

Hello all,

I just signed up with my same email and address as 888 and I was credited the $200 bonus.

Brendan

[cassette]

I hope everyone taking part in the RAF bonus is aware of the high probability of a chain of bannings when CS sees sorry4me referring 200 bonus abusers. Not worth the $15 to miss out on future reloads IMO.

[sorry4me]

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Hello all,

I just signed up with my same email and address as 888 and I was credited the $200 bonus.

Brendan

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Wow, you mean the software runs on your PC and you got the bonus! Good job! This was my experience as well. Good Luck!

[Ad Alta]

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I quess they randomly select people to pick on. Did you plead your case with cs? Did you specify you were signing up at 21.com? Has 888 bonus banned you from their site?

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I'm definitely not bonus-banned from 888.com. In fact, I dropped a dime there last month. I'm sure they love me.

[sorry4me]

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I hope everyone taking part in the RAF bonus is aware of the high probability of a chain of bannings when CS sees sorry4me referring 200 bonus abusers. Not worth the $15 to miss out on future reloads IMO.

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I refered 20 and it doesn't matter the RAF form on the website doesn't work. Besides we are not bonus abusers. We are just a bunch of gamblers enjoying a promotional offer. Now if I created 100 gnomes and refered them all and played the bonus 100 times that would be abuse. I'm sorry I tried to make some extra $ on this find. Next time I won't post.

[alphac]

Anyone who was banned from casino-on-net get the bonus?

[sorry4me]

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I quess they randomly select people to pick on. Did you plead your case with cs? Did you specify you were signing up at 21.com? Has 888 bonus banned you from their site?

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I'm definitely not bonus-banned from 888.com. In fact, I dropped a dime there last month. I'm sure they love me.

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It doesn't appear that they love you.

[JackOfSpeed]

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I hope everyone taking part in the RAF bonus is aware of the high probability of a chain of bannings when CS sees sorry4me referring 200 bonus abusers. Not worth the $15 to miss out on future reloads IMO.

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I refered 20 and it doesn't matter the RAF form on the website doesn't work. Besides we are not bonus abusers. We are just a bunch of gamblers enjoying a promotional offer. Now if I created 100 gnomes and refered them all and played the bonus 100 times that would be abuse. I'm sorry I tried to make some extra $ on this find. Next time I won't post.

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I don't think it was as much a criticism of you as it was a reasonable warning to anyone considering signing up as a RAF. It's a good point that there are risks involved in such a situation (where the referrer is referring numerous other would-be whores).

[321Mike]

I signed up an hour ago. I used the same info as 888 but used Neteller instead of echeck. Bonus given. Client runs just fine for me.

Live chat support gave me a good scare when I contatced them to confirm I was done with the WR. They said $6000 to go because I deposited with Neteller. I quoted the web site and he corrected himself. Cashout in progress.

[grac]

Need a referral pm me.

[grac]

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Need a referral pm me.

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bump I wanna do this tonite.

[136913691369]

I am banned from C-O-N and I still received my bonus

[JackOfSpeed]

Apparently I already have an 888 account, so this bonus is no good for me. Sounds like 321Mike has found a way to fool them, hopefully he'll get to keep his bonus.

Correction -- according to support, if your 888 account has been inactive for more than 6 months, you are eligible for this bonus. So looks like I'll get this one after all.

[sorry4me]

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I am banned from C-O-N and I still received my bonus

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Now that is cool!

[bb88]

Just deposited with same name, address, Neteller account as my 888.com account, and got the bonus credited about ten seconds after my deposit went through.

[sorry4me]

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Apparently I already have an 888 account, so this bonus is no good for me. Sounds like 321Mike has found a way to fool them, hopefully he'll get to keep his bonus.

Correction -- according to support, if your 888 account has been inactive for more than 6 months, you are eligible for this bonus. So looks like I'll get this one after all.

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Strange, I signed up with 888 about three months ago. I think the only thing that we can be sure of is that 888's customer service is making it up as they go along. Good Luck on the bonus!

[livinitup0]

Worked for me...Its very slow though. Never had an 888 account. I used to be a pacific affiliate though...is this bonus and being an affiliate going to kill my chances of doing CON?

[hhughes]

Hmmm...

Its been ages since I did the originial CON bonus...wouldnt even be sure if Im banned or not...

Anyone know if this has a end date? Dont want to miss out on this...

Thanks

[sorry4me]

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Hmmm...

Its been ages since I did the originial CON bonus...wouldnt even be sure if Im banned or not...

Anyone know if this has a end date? Dont want to miss out on this...

Thanks

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I would try to sign up soon since we might be giving 21.com a reason to change their terms. Customer support says this is a seperate casino and they provide support for it. So perhaps if 888 isn't behind it, they might not have deep enough pockets to keep the current terms. Since we already have one confirmed CON/888 banned player who got the bonus, I think your chances are good for getting the bonus. Of course, some people aren't recieving the bonus and it's not clear why. Just give it a shot.

[grac]

What card are you guys using?
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Also where can I see my wagering requirements?

[sorry4me]

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What card are you guys using?
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Also where can I see my wagering requirements?

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Try the CON card from CasinoDave if you need one. I kept a manual count with a deck of 100 cards. I think live chat is the only source of WR progress info.
http://www.casinodave.com/casinos.htm#CON

[grac]

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What card are you guys using?
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Also where can I see my wagering requirements?

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Try the CON card from CasinoDave if you need one. I kept a manual count with a deck of 100 cards. I think live chat is the only source of WR progress info.
http://www.casinodave.com/casinos.htm#CON

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Is there any way to speed up the software it is painfully slow.

[Ken_AA]

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What card are you guys using?
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Also where can I see my wagering requirements?

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Try the CON card from CasinoDave if you need one. I kept a manual count with a deck of 100 cards. I think live chat is the only source of WR progress info.
http://www.casinodave.com/casinos.htm#CON

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In the cashiers page there is a comp points section, when your comp points hit 400 you have made 4K in bets

AND THEN CASH YOUR COMP POINTS OUT FOR AN EXTRA 4 BUCKS.

Ken

[136913691369]

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Is there any way to speed up the software it is painfully slow.


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YES. Bet bigger!

[Ken_AA]

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Is there any way to speed up the software it is painfully slow.


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YES. Bet bigger!

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No kidding, I had to go to 25 dollar bets and I still wanted to hurt myself. oh well, anything for pursuit of +EV

Ken

[136913691369]

yeah I upped my bets to 25/hand as well. I had to break my always flatbet $20 on all bonuses system because it is so slow.

[Dave Coulier]

Well this Casino didn't go according to plan. I ran my $200 bonus up to $350 flat betting $5 2-handed about a third of the way thru. I thought this was gonna be a nice run for once, but I was wrong as usual.

Within the next 1500 wagered I was all the way down to $100. I was losing 80%+ of my double downs. No blackjacks as far as the eye could see. Every hand was beginning with low cards while the dealer gladly dealt himself Faces and Aces galore. Should I bet dealt a 12 or 13 it always brought a face card, while the dealer gladly hit to a 17-21 with the same starting hands.

Somehow I managed a scant $41 profit even though I was down to my last $10 with 300 left to wager.

Just for once when I am running hot, I would like to not lose it all to a ridiculous cold spell that wipes out all my profit.

[E.Z.]

test

[Linksys]

Just busted my second casino of the day, 21.com

Bet $10 for half of it then raised it to $20, busted out after wagering 2190 of the 4000. [censored] [censored] day-lost 300.

[Linksys]

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Well this Casino didn't go according to plan. I ran my $200 bonus up to $350 flat betting $5 2-handed about a third of the way thru. I thought this was gonna be a nice run for once, but I was wrong as usual.

Within the next 1500 wagered I was all the way down to $100. I was losing 80%+ of my double downs. No blackjacks as far as the eye could see. Every hand was beginning with low cards while the dealer gladly dealt himself Faces and Aces galore. Should I bet dealt a 12 or 13 it always brought a face card, while the dealer gladly hit to a 17-21 with the same starting hands.

Somehow I managed a scant $41 profit even though I was down to my last $10 with 300 left to wager.

Just for once when I am running hot, I would like to not lose it all to a ridiculous cold spell that wipes out all my profit.

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Ya uh I busted. lol at least you kept your original 200. plus some.

Im gonna go do Cherry's sign up now- hopefully I won't bust that too.

[E.Z.]

new to casinos. if i deposit tonight and play a bit and they change the terms on the 5th of july what terms do i play with generally.

[Dave Coulier]

Make a screen shot of the current ToC that you are playing under. If they try and change it on you, show them the ToC that you signed up under, but that doesn't always work. Sometimes they'll still stick it in ur ass regardless.

[Dave Coulier]

Good luck on Cherry. I ran well there and cashed out an extra $50 on top of all my bonus money. It has to turn around eventually for you..or does it?!?!?!?!?!?! ***Eerie music playing in the background***

[sorry4me]

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new to casinos. if i deposit tonight and play a bit and they change the terms on the 5th of july what terms do i play with generally.

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Generally, the terms that you signed up with (the 4th). You'll be safe plus there are plenty of people with screen shots of the terms but I would be suprised if you had any problems.

[heater]

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Well this Casino didn't go according to plan. I ran my $200 bonus up to $350 flat betting $5 2-handed about a third of the way thru. I thought this was gonna be a nice run for once, but I was wrong as usual.

Within the next 1500 wagered I was all the way down to $100. I was losing 80%+ of my double downs. No blackjacks as far as the eye could see. Every hand was beginning with low cards while the dealer gladly dealt himself Faces and Aces galore. Should I bet dealt a 12 or 13 it always brought a face card, while the dealer gladly hit to a 17-21 with the same starting hands.

Somehow I managed a scant $41 profit even though I was down to my last $10 with 300 left to wager.

Just for once when I am running hot, I would like to not lose it all to a ridiculous cold spell that wipes out all my profit.

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Ya uh I busted. lol at least you kept your original 200. plus some.

Im gonna go do Cherry's sign up now- hopefully I won't bust that too.

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Make smaller bets at Cherry and you'll still clear wayyyy faster. It'll seem like supermegaturbonitrous speed compared to this place.

[grac]

Just cleared and ran well, has it hit anyones neteller yet?

[sorry4me]

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Just cleared and ran well, has it hit anyones neteller yet?

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When I did CON I had to wait 4 days, I'm quessing since they process the 21.com withdrawals that it will take about the same amount of time.

[grinin]

finished with only $100 of my $200 left
flatbetting $10 hand

[nivaman]

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The following restrictions apply for the “Opening Deposit Welcome Bonus” (ODWP):

Residents of Finland, Hong Kong, Moldova, Poland, Russia, Sweden, Ukraine, Estonia, Hungary and Thailand. Players from these countries must wager 50 times the amount of the ODWP before cashing the bonus out.

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[Linksys]

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Good luck on Cherry. I ran well there and cashed out an extra $50 on top of all my bonus money. It has to turn around eventually for you..or does it?!?!?!?!?!?! ***Eerie music playing in the background***

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Nope. Cut the betting back to $10 per hand from $20 and busted after clearing 2000 of the WR. 3 busts in one day. [censored].

[howdydudey]

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Anyone having any trouble running this thing? I download and install it and it gives me an error and says it has to close.

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Yep, I can not run con or this one on my laptop...it installs but crashes on start up. Support said to disable graphic acceleration, but that did nothing. I got it to run in safe mode, you might want to try that (hit f8 when the computer is booting up). What is your comps specs? My comp is an intel dual core with an ati vid card...just wondering if your comp is similar.

[321Mike]

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Just cleared and ran well, has it hit anyones neteller yet?

[/ QUOTE ] When I did CON I had to wait 4 days, I'm quessing since they process the 21.com withdrawals that it will take about the same amount of time.

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The popup after requesting a cashout says they won't start processing it for 5 days. It will probably hit Neteller on the sixth day.

[sixers030409]

Well i just deposited and did not recieve the welcome bonus. So i contacted live support and they say i am not eligable since i already recieved a welcome bonus at CON about 2 months ago..ugh

[321Mike]

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yeah I upped my bets to 25/hand as well. I had to break my always flatbet $20 on all bonuses system because it is so slow.

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I started out playing 3 handed for $15/hand but I was flipping out eveytime I hit "rebet". Watching those individual chips slide across the table is excruciating.

[Dave Coulier]

Sorry to hear u had another bust. It sounds like you go for the big score or bust. Granted having 20 bets isn't exactly "going for the big score". I feel most comfortable with around 25-30 bets myself.

Good luck on whatever your next casino is, and hopefully you get a big score.

[LoyalFrush]

I was bonus banned by CON over a year ago. I just joined 21.com now and didn't get the bonus. Talked to support and they said their system is lagging and may take up to 24 hrs to be credited but if you play before the bonus is credited the wagering counts towards the WR.
I'll wait for the bonus to show up first because I couldn't blame them for banning me /images/graemlins/blush.gif

[Parthos]

I've got a new one. Downloaded the software and when I tried to create an account, it said I already had one at 21.com. I uninstalled my Casino-On-Net account ages ago after being bonus banned. So I try my old CON account name and password and lo and behold, they work. Seems like they leave a little nugget behind to prevent multi-sign ups. Of course the Live Chat icon didn't work either. Anyone else have this problem?

<Sigh>

[AmonRaa]

Deposited and no bonus. Support sais I already have an account. Oh well...

[kossa_mu]

50x for people from Sweden. Is it the same with CON?

[136913691369]

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I am banned from C-O-N and I still received my bonus

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Looks like they caught on to me and im now re-banned.. YaY!!!!

a message pops up saying that I cannot deposit anymore or withdrawn any money in my account. Bastards better give me my deposit back.

[freni126]

You have to send in documents to CON right? It was a few years ago I did that one... back in the good old days when it was 200/200/2000, Neteller 20*B, Swedes 20*B, they gave you $200 as an affiliate... those were the days.. :/

Now when it's 50*B for swedes there is little meaning for me to do this one... they do request documents right?

[sm1030]

I'm trying to cashout now and support on the phone and live support are telling me it is a 50x play through because I used Neteller.

Anyways, they had me send an email to manager@888.com to see what happens. I copied the t&c page when I started so I hope they honor what it said.

21.com site still does not say anything about 50x play thru when using Neteller. But if your about to do this one, use Firepay.

[Uston]

I signed up for CON a couple of years ago and I never had to submit any documents to cash out.

[sorry4me]

[ QUOTE ]
I'm trying to cashout now and support on the phone and live support are telling me it is a 50x play through because I used Neteller.

Anyways, they had me send an email to manager@888.com to see what happens. I copied the t&c page when I started so I hope they honor what it said.

21.com site still does not say anything about 50x play thru when using Neteller. But if your about to do this one, use Firepay.

[/ QUOTE ]

They told me that too but I pointed the agent to the website terms. After reading them, he affirmed that it was only 20X and said that he was confused because 21.com was new. They are just thinking of the 888 terms when you ask. You'll be ok.

[brendanb438]

SM did the software block you from cashing out or you just wanted to confirm with support before cashing out? Join live chat again and give them the link to the website and they should take care of you.

Brendan

[jds1201]

[ QUOTE ]
so whats the consensus? i can't get this stupid software to run. should i just give up because if i deposit i won't get the bonus anyway if I have a previous CON account?

if i get it to work and deposit and they don't credit the bonus can i cash out right away?

[/ QUOTE ]

Linksys,

I had the same problem with the CON software recently. Are you running Logitech webcam software? If so, you need to go to the Logitech website and upgrade your software to version 9.5.0 as there is some compatability issue with a shared dll file in the 9.0.2 version that comes with the camera.

After I did this upgrade, the CON software ran fine.

[brandysbich]

Anybody wanna refer me? I'm gonna join in about 5 mins

[Keys Myaths]

.

[Linksys]

Just busted Sports Interaction as well.

[Linksys]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
so whats the consensus? i can't get this stupid software to run. should i just give up because if i deposit i won't get the bonus anyway if I have a previous CON account?

if i get it to work and deposit and they don't credit the bonus can i cash out right away?

[/ QUOTE ]

Linksys,

I had the same problem with the CON software recently. Are you running Logitech webcam software? If so, you need to go to the Logitech website and upgrade your software to version 9.5.0 as there is some compatability issue with a shared dll file in the 9.0.2 version that comes with the camera.

After I did this upgrade, the CON software ran fine.

[/ QUOTE ]

wow you diagnosed it perfectly. i ended up just running it on another computer and busting out but when i tried your suggestion on my computer it worked great.

thanks.

[Gregatron]

http://www.21.com/policies-bonus/

[ QUOTE ]
The ODWP bonus can only be cashed out after 20 times the bonus amount has been wagered. For example, if a player receives an ODWP of $50, then he or she must wager $1000 before cashing out the bonus. Exceptions apply to:

* Residents of Finland, Hong Kong, Moldova, Poland, Russia, Sweden, Ukraine, Estonia, Hungary and Thailand. Players from these countries must wager 50 times the amount of the ODWP before cashing the bonus out.
* Players from China must wager 200 times the amount of the ODWP before cashing the bonus out. In addition, the ODWP of players from China who deposit via a Chinese Debit Card will be limited to 20% or up to $50.


[/ QUOTE ]

[Gecko21]

I hadn't gotten the bonus credited either like some other people, and I just talked to live support about it. Since my 888.com account hasn't been active for six months, I'll apparently get the bonus in 24 hours. Otherwise I guess you're SOL on this bonus.

[LoyalFrush]

[ QUOTE ]
I hadn't gotten the bonus credited either like some other people, and I just talked to live support about it. Since my 888.com account hasn't been active for six months, I'll apparently get the bonus in 24 hours. Otherwise I guess you're SOL on this bonus.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm in the same boat. 22 hours since signup and no bonus. I talked to support and they claim it is coming ... we will see.

[Uston]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
What card are you guys using?
edit
Also where can I see my wagering requirements?

[/ QUOTE ]

Try the CON card from CasinoDave if you need one. I kept a manual count with a deck of 100 cards. I think live chat is the only source of WR progress info.
http://www.casinodave.com/casinos.htm#CON

[/ QUOTE ]

In the cashiers page there is a comp points section, when your comp points hit 400 you have made 4K in bets

AND THEN CASH YOUR COMP POINTS OUT FOR AN EXTRA 4 BUCKS.

Ken

[/ QUOTE ]

Well, I didn't get the bonus, but thanks to this post and thread I'm now aware of CON Comp Points. I just cahed in 2-3 years worth for nearly $200.

[JackOfSpeed]

Ugh, I never got this bonus, and support is still jerking me around although they told me two different times that I am eligible. Thumbs down to 21.com.

[136913691369]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I am banned from C-O-N and I still received my bonus

[/ QUOTE ]

Looks like they caught on to me and im now re-banned.. YaY!!!!

a message pops up saying that I cannot deposit anymore or withdrawn any money in my account. Bastards better give me my deposit back.

[/ QUOTE ]

I received a pleasent suprise when I was notified by e-mail that I would get my full $200 deposit back even though I had lost $60 of my initial $400 balance. I figured they would pull some crap saying that the $60 I lost comes out of my own money. Now I just gotta wait and see if I actually get all the money back as promised.

[dingying]

seems that they changed the T&C to 50x for neteller deposits.

what is the 88$ day bonus? is it every day? 20xwagering? too good to be true.

[brendanb438]

I am talking to support about my account created a few days ago if I am grandfathered under the 20x for Neteller. I have had to hold for 10 minutes for him to get an answer.


Brendan

[brendanb438]

Yup support is telling us to go [censored] ourselves. God bless 888.com and the fcuks who run it.

Brendan

[JackOfSpeed]

[ QUOTE ]
Yup support is telling us to go [censored] ourselves. God bless 888.com and the fcuks who run it.

Brendan

[/ QUOTE ]

Seriously? [censored] them, then. There seems to be no rhyme or reason as to who got the correct bonuses and who got left out. Pretty flaky site.

So, is 50x even worth doing? How much EV do we lose going from 20 to 50??

[brendanb438]

With how slow the software is you can play maybe 3 hands a minute maybe 4. I told chat support to go [censored] themselves and I just cashed out my deposit.

Brendan

[136913691369]

[ QUOTE ]
So, is 50x even worth doing? How much EV do we lose going from 20 to 50??

[/ QUOTE ]

You only lose an extra $24 with the extra wagering, but thats not the point because you lose so much hourly rate with their increibly slow software.

[E.Z.]

so they just changed the terms then??

the terms page says it hasnt been updated since june 25th


are they acting as if it always said this at bottom
Additional Bonus Restrictions:

Whenever an initial deposit is made via NETELLER, Opening Deposit Welcome Bonuses, 21.com-Day Bonuses ($88 Bonuses) and Happy Hour Bonuses, bonuses are eligible for cash out only when 50 times the amount of the bonus has been wagered.

[sorry4me]

I noticed that they did indeed change the website reflecting a 50x WR for Neteller deposits. However, the update date of June 25, 2006 was not changed. That's shady! I've got screen shots of the "before" and "after". I would send them to customer service but I am convinced they are morons.

[JackOfSpeed]

[ QUOTE ]
I noticed that they did indeed change the website reflecting a 50x WR for Neteller deposits. However, the update date of June 25, 2006 was not changed. That's shady! I've got screen shots of the "before" and "after". I would send them to customer service but I am convinced they are morons.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yea, the live support person said I could email the manager to complain, but shady is as shady does from my experience -- I doubt I'd get anywhere, even with screenshots. Time to just scratch this one in as a loss and move on. Pretty crappy site all around though; confused and disorganized management, ultra-slow and clunky software, and slow in crediting bonues.

I wish I had three thumbs...so I could give "21.com" (aka 88.com) three thumbs down. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[Action Scott]

Live support told me it was "an error on the website", oh well, cashing out.

[Ron Burgundy]

I just deposited with an e-check and was credited the bonus immediately. At CON I've only used Neteller and a different email.

I'm gonna play this one like a sticky because I don't feel like playing bj all evening, and cuz I'm so ROBUSTO. Wish me luck!

[Ron Burgundy]

Busted out in 4 hands betting $200 a hand. I hope they'll have reloads.

[Elim99]

So it is confirmed that this is a 50X bonus?

[Ron Burgundy]

[ QUOTE ]
So it is confirmed that this is a 50X bonus?

[/ QUOTE ]

Only if you deposit via Neteller, or you live in one of those weird countries.

[Elim99]

Is Canada weird enough? /images/graemlins/smile.gif Probably not.

[Elim99]

Ok I withdrawn my money. So I still have the $200 left in my account. Should I be able to double up on roulette and cash out the winnings? I did this with 888 a long time ago and made some good money.

I will wait for my withdrawal to go through first before I attempt to do this.

[ZMD]

[censored] only gave me $10, great.

[136913691369]

edit: nevermind

[brendanb438]

I emailed manager@888.com and to my suprise they said they will honor the 20x bonus WR if you deposited with Neteller before the site was updated. Everyone who signed up before this happened make sure you get confirmation from that email otherwise you might be in for an unpleasant treat when you try to cashout. I reversed my cashout and will finish the WR up.

I have had nothing but bad experiences with their CS so this is a nice change.

Brendan

[chigori]

How long does a withdrawal take at 21.com? I deposited through Neteller, played my 20x and cashed out and during the cash out wait period they changed my T&C. Just wondering how fast I could see any money in my Neteller account.

[JackOfSpeed]

[ QUOTE ]
I emailed manager@888.com and to my suprise they said they will honor the 20x bonus WR if you deposited with Neteller before the site was updated. Everyone who signed up before this happened make sure you get confirmation from that email otherwise you might be in for an unpleasant treat when you try to cashout. I reversed my cashout and will finish the WR up.

I have had nothing but bad experiences with their CS so this is a nice change.

Brendan

[/ QUOTE ]

That's good of them. I'll admit that I went busto after wagering almost exactly 20x in $20/hand flatbets (as others have said, the software sucks and makes you want to get out of there as quickly possible), so its not relevant to me, but good news for those who still haven't hit this.

[Biesterfield]

I'd just like to give a thanks to the OP for pointing this out. I had done CoN maybe a year ago, and I received this bonus right after I deposited. Played it like a sticky and ran it up to 1.3k. thanks sorry4me.

[grac]

Something is fishy I completed the 20x bonus on the 4th and got an email just now saying my cashout is not being accepted because I need to wager an additinal 6k. This makes it a 50x bonus, what is going on did it hit anyone else's neteller or are we all getting this bs.

[grac]

[ QUOTE ]
Something is fishy I completed the 20x bonus on the 4th and got an email just now saying my cashout is not being accepted because I need to wager an additinal 6k. This makes it a 50x bonus, what is going on did it hit anyone else's neteller or are we all getting this bs.

[/ QUOTE ]

I am not in the process of emailing the casino manager too, I was not happy when I got that email stating I needed to withdraw my cashout let's hope the manager can come through here.

[sorry4me]

[ QUOTE ]
I'd just like to give a thanks to the OP for pointing this out. I had done CoN maybe a year ago, and I received this bonus right after I deposited. Played it like a sticky and ran it up to 1.3k. thanks sorry4me.

[/ QUOTE ]

You're welcome! Nice score! /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[321Mike]

I received the email, too. They tell me I have to reverse the cashout and wager another $5500 or I won't get the bonus.

I replied to the email so it went to operations @cassava.net. I'll go back and forward it to the manager @888 address. Hopefully, I'll get the same response as Brendan.

[Ken_AA]

I just talked to someone on the phone (really shoulda gotten her name) and she agreed with me that the terms were different when I signed up. She said to email promotions@888.com to see what they could do. She also said if I reversed my cashout I would be able to withdraw the amount that I am over 200 dollars. So I guess worst case I lose 105 (I'm at 295 bucks) with a shot to run it up like a 100 dollar sticky.



Ken

[tf00]

[censored] variance!!! Wagered 852 so far, down $200, betting $4 and $6!!!! This bonus sucks!!!

[tf00]

888 must monitor this message board, made back $100 betting mostly $6 after I wagered $648 more. This site is rather streaky.

[brendanb438]

I received another email from 888.com management out of the blue reassuring me that I will be ok with betting $4000 and that once I hit this to email them back so they can manually cash me out. Really really nice customer support.

The software is soooo slow though.
I decided to try something that worked once well for me in a live casino betting and doubling my bets everytime a lost a hand.

This "system" isn't really that worthwild but I was really drunk the first time I used it in a casino with $5 bets and I managed to make $800 at the live casino. I then lost $200 the next time sober trying it so I scraped the idea.

For the 21.com I decided to shot for $2 a hand in winnings and doubled to 4/8/16/32/64 everytime so once I won a hand I would theoretically be up $2 on every winning hand assuming I don't bust first. I ran my $400 up to $710 doing this and this chaotic method helped cleared the WR quickly with the slow software. I was betting $2 3 handed for the first $1500 in WR before trying this. I only had to bet $64 twice and hit a BJ on the second one which was nice. I think I bet $32 over the course of the last $2500 WR maybe 7 or 8 times.


Now lets see if I receive the cashout as promised.

Brendan

[321Mike]

I just got an email back from Helmut at 888.com. He apologized for the confusion and said they have honored the original 20x bonus, and I can disregard the email from operations. That was in response to forwarding the email to manager@888.com so that seems to be the way to go.

[Ken_AA]

[ QUOTE ]
I just got an email back from Helmut at 888.com. He apologized for the confusion and said they have honored the original 20x bonus, and I can disregard the email from operations. That was in response to forwarding the email to manager@888.com so that seems to be the way to go.

[/ QUOTE ]

Got the same exact thing. Helmut rules.

I'll post the email I sent him in case anyone wants to rip my email that worked off....

Hello,

I signed up for the casino 21.com on July 3rd. I wagered 3988 and
requested a cashout. Your site clearly stated that the bonus had to be
played through 20X's before a cashout is made. It made no mention of
different terms based on using Neteller as a deposit option I agree I
need to wager more before cashing out. However I have been told I need
6012 more when I believe I should only have to wager 12 dollars more.

Your terms have been updated since I signed up, however I do not see
how a business is can change their terms after a customer agreed to the
original terms. A customer service representative agreed with me on the
phone that I did understand the terms correctly when I signed up.

I enjoy playing at Pacific Poker along with playing at 21.com. I
beleive 888 to be a respected company. I hope this matter can be dealt
with in a way agreeable to both parties.

Ken Lumb

[LoyalFrush]

Still trying to get my bonus out of them and I received this response:

Dear xxxxx,

I am Stuart from the Operations Department at Cassava Enterprises
(Gibraltar) Ltd., and I am writing in response to your email relating to
your Casino-on-Net account with the username "xxxxx".

xxxxx, many thanks for your email.

Having checked our records I note that you have three other accounts
with us.

On one of these you have previoulsy been sent an email advising you that
we were denying you any further promotional bonuses.

xxx, this desicion applies to all accounts yuou might have with us. As
such the bonus to which you refer in your latest email, ill not be
awarded.

I trust that this clarifies the position for you.

Regards,

Stuart
Operations Department
Cassava (Gibraltar) Ltd.
operations@cassava.net

Hmmmmmm, am I dead in the water on this one or would an email to manager@888.com do any good.
3 accounts? Casino-on-Net, Pacific Poker ... I don't know what the 3rd one is but they have all been inactive for at least a year.
Anyone else received this email and still weaseled the bonus out of them?

I hate missing out on easy money /images/graemlins/mad.gif

[sorry4me]

Took alot of emailing but the update date on the promotion terms has been changed to July 5th to reflect the change in the Neteller terms that was originally posted on June 25th.

[festeringZit]

I was banned at casino-on-net, and my account at
21.com was locked as soon as I created it. not sure
how those banned were able to whore this one...

[HalvSame]

My cash out was denied. An email and a couple of hours later this mail drops into my inbox. Thumbs up.[ QUOTE ]
Dear Whore,

I am John writing from the Operations Department at Cassava Enterprises
(Gibraltar) Ltd.

Whore, the wagering requirement where not recently changed. The site
information was just updated. As the terms and conditions shown where
printed incorrectly. As you have pointed out correctly, when you joined
our site these where the terms and conditions shown to you. I have
wavered the remaining wagering requirement for your account. I have also
informed our cashouts department to process your cashout accordingly.

I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused and thank you for
your patience and understanding in this matter.


Kind regards,
John.D
Operation Department
Cassava (Gibraltar) Ltd.
operations@cassava.net<br />
[/ QUOTE ]

[sirej]

Just wanted to say that I received my cashout in Neteller today after cashing out on 7/4.

Thanks sorry4me. /images/graemlins/smile.gif