Party Poker Blackjack

[mojobluesman]

Is is possible to get an edge on an 8 deck game with reshuffling after 10% of the cards have been dealt?

If so, how much?

[playersare]

there's virtually no way to play an +EV game under those conditions. there are plenty of online casinos with profitable bonuses you can do instead.

[cardcounter0]

No.

[MCS]

What's the max bet spread allowed at Party? Whatever it is, it's almost certainly not high enough. I bet Party did some math about this. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

I mean, if you could spread 1-100,000,000, then yeah, I think you could have an edge. Somehow, I don't think that is happening though.

[mojobluesman]

I messed around with counting a little over 20 years and played a bit in Atlantic City. I was good at keeping the count under Casino conditions, but I never got my playing level past the point of basic strategy (or a little better) combined with bet fluctuations depending on the count. I'm not even sure if I had an edge because I didn't play often enough to be able to tell. It was a long trip to AC for me and it didn't seem worth the trouble given my bankroll at the time.

Are there attractive games in AC these days?

How close can you get to break even or better keeping a simple +/- running count divided by the number of decks left combined with basic strategy and a small bet fluctuation (4 to 1)?

How much of a bet fluctuation is required to gain a decent edge?

How soon before you are tossed? /images/graemlins/mad.gif

[playersare]

you can't legally get kicked out of a casino in AC, but I've heard stories of preferential shuffling is which pretty much just as bad.

the scene is pretty uniform there - 6 deck games are usually $25 minimum bet, no mid-shoe entry and penetration somewhere between mediocre and average. if you can manage to spread 1-8 you might be able to play for "free" in the long run and earn some decent comps. however, with that size of a bankroll you're probably better off playing mid-limit poker instead.

[mojobluesman]

No mid shoe entry is a new one for me.

When I originally went down there 20 years or so ago, if you jumped in mid shoe you raised eyebrows but they usually allowed it. I was in my early 20s at the time, but I looked even younger (barely legal). So maybe they cut me some slack on the assumption I was a loser. I always only sat down when the count was really favorable and I got up as soon as really bad one came along. Got away with it, then again I wasn't winning much.

[playersare]

I will say that not ALL 6-deck tables in AC are NMSE at all times, but enough of them that you would need to keep track. considering the high minimum bet requirements, the ability to Wong in is certainly an important strategy to utilize.

[cardcounter0]

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Are there attractive games in AC these days?

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Yes. Penetration is the key thing to look for.

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How close can you get to break even or better keeping a simple +/- running count divided by the number of decks left combined with basic strategy and a small bet fluctuation (4 to 1)?


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Pretty damm close, but why go to all that trouble to play break even? Spread more, and learn some non-basic strategy plays, leave the shoe in negative counts, only start playing positive shoes -- now you are making money.

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How much of a bet fluctuation is required to gain a decent edge?


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1-12 will give you a very nice edge.

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How soon before you are tossed?


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Depends on how good your act is.

[cardcounter0]

Plenty of places still allow midshoe entry. Jump in when the count is +3 or more, and play multiple spots if possible.

[mojobluesman]

At what true count do you get the edge 6 deck AC rules playing baisc strategy?