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beavens
01-17-2006, 06:11 PM
villains are all pretty poor - betting/calling with 2nd and 3rd best hands a lot. no stats as i'm at work right now.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx (http://www.zerodivide.cx/converter)

UTG ($24.35)
Hero ($25.80)
Button ($15.70)
SB ($29.25)
BB ($31.25)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
UTG calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.25) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $1</font>, BB calls $1, UTG folds, Hero calls $1, Button folds.

Turn: ($4.25) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $2</font>, BB calls $2, Hero calls $2.

River: ($10.25) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $3</font>, BB calls $3, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $9</font>, SB calls $6, BB calls $6.

Final Pot: $37.25

looking back i'm pretty disgusted with i played this hand. i could've extracted more from this hand by playing the flop and turn better.

advice on the optimal line?

prefer a call/raise of the flop - what amount and why?

turn - call or raise? is it criminal not to raise the turn? i believe my intention at the time was to disguise that i made my flush. if you vote raise, how much will keep them in the hand?

river was pretty simple - but did i bet too little?

let's hear it!

Logik
01-17-2006, 06:21 PM
If the opponents are betting and calling with substandard hands and that is your read on them, raise the flop to $4, SB will then likely bet $6-7 on the turn due to the $15 pot size (which you can smoothcall), and then raise the river.

As played, I like the river raise to $9 if you think that will allow SB and BB to both call-- you extracted an extra $12. If you would have raised to $12, you would have likely only gotten one caller and would have extracted $9. Regardless, you need to get the pot a lot bigger by the river. Raising the flop is the easiest way to do this.

djoyce003
01-17-2006, 06:22 PM
I think you could raise the turn and still get river action. You have the hand locked almost certainly, but if another diamond hits on the river your action is TOAST. For that reason I raise the turn, although it's fairly transparent if you do. Raise to $6 or $7 on the turn, bet about 9 or 10 on the river if they call the turn bet.

Pokertastic
01-17-2006, 06:44 PM
I would have raised the flop to 3-4, you have a very strong draw and want to get max value from A/x or J/10

call/ 1/3 pot the turn/ push, you made your flush and you don't want to scare them off with a huge bet or raise but if they go crazy feel free to push it in.

push if bet into/ 1/2 pot the river. By now the pot should be around $10-15 if they called through and a $5-8 bet will probably get called or raised by a 2nd best.

n00dl3
01-17-2006, 07:22 PM
agree with logik... good luck next time

david3p
01-17-2006, 07:32 PM
going with ur reads on the villains, i think raising the turn to 6 / 7 would have been sufficient to stack at least one of them by river