Whats going on with Royal Vegas Poker?

[Ken_AA]

I didnt do the 100% sign up bonus when first posted and missed out on the upfront bonus (I guess).

I sign up tonight through bonus whores and make my 100 dollar deposit. I then chat with live support and they say neteller is having problems and they can not see my deposit. I say ok, when you can see it when will it be credited. Support says after 100 hands. I ask do you mean 100 or 1000 hands? he says 100. I say are you sure its 100 hands, and then I can cash out the bonus if I wish? he says yes stakes have to be at least .25/.50.

So whats the story, should I get the bonus before playing or after 100 or after 1000 hands?

T&C's are here and it looks like I should get it up front still.
http://www.royalvegaspoker.com/terms-for-promotions.asp?btag=RVCP_direct#10

Ken

[Queensgrad]

Got mine up front Saturday, cashed out Sunday, waiting for it to hit netellar before I blow it all taking a shot!

[Ken_AA]

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Got mine up front Saturday, cashed out Sunday, waiting for it to hit netellar before I blow it all taking a shot!

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This is what I was hoping to do, I haven't tried any qualifiers for this years WSOP. This was gonna be my instant Qualifer Roll.

Ken

[tonew]

My deposit of $100 is back at neteller and im playing on my $100 bonus.

No problems at all.

[DavidC]

No offense, but you guys are morons.

[terrellk11]

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No offense, but you guys are morons.

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Gee . . . why would anyone take offense at that?

[gambiwings24]

Though I'm not one of the OPs you called a moron, curious as to why you said that?

[Ken_AA]

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No offense, but you guys are morons.

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HUH? free buyins to SNG's at levels higher then I usually play. How am I a moron?

Ken

[2+2 wannabe]

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Though I'm not one of the OPs you called a moron, curious as to why you said that?

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he's probably referring to the fact that people are depositing, getting the bonus, and withdrawing their deposit and playing with the bonus

it's pretty stupid actually

it's no wonder promotions get taken away

[terrellk11]

It may be stupid for someone with a huge bankroll that already plays at higher limits, but for a micro-limit player it's an opportunity that doesn't come along very often. When you're used to playing .10/.25 (or even smaller) NL tables, the chance to play a 100NL table or to enter a tourney with a buyin that would normally be 1/2 your bankroll with someone else's money is hard to pass up.

[Mathemagician]

Unless there's something I'm missing, it's YOUR money not someone else's. You can withdraw it and put gas in your car, buy a nice dinner for your girlfriend, or go to WalMart and upgrade your wardrobe.

M

[terrellk11]

The bonus money isn't. You have to play 1000 raked hands before you can withdraw that. So you can withdraw your own money and go to walmart, but have to do something with that $100 bonus money. Some prefer to grind it out and then withdraw it, but there are dozens if not hundreds of 10x bonuses available online. There are only two sites (Pacific and this one) where you can take your own money out and play with their cash at no risk to your own bankroll. Since the chance doesn't come along all that often, use it to take a shot at something and go for a big score. Or keep trying to double it up at a limit higher than you usually play and take out the profits each time you do.

[2+2 wannabe]

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Unless there's something I'm missing, it's YOUR money not someone else's. You can withdraw it and put gas in your car, buy a nice dinner for your girlfriend, or go to WalMart and upgrade your wardrobe.

M

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lol I don't know if you're serious

[rez]

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it's no wonder promotions get taken away

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or the wagering requirements increase...

When I started playing online the wagering requirements were 2x the bonus. Now a bonus of 20x deposit AND bonus is considered very good. The crap that some players try to pull over on the casino, is a major reason why they have gone up.

[Sammich]

Is there any PSO type deals for Royal Vegas Poker? Or even rakeback is nice. Heck Id even settle for a RAF. Better than nothing.

[Ken_AA]

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it's no wonder promotions get taken away

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Ya, but I got mine.

Honestly, you really care what kind of deal might be left around for others?

Second, you're assuming the people at Royal Vegas are stupid. They know people will do this yet they put this new promotion up anyways. If I were to grind out the 1000 hands with their money I would still create more rake then the 100 I took hence the site wins. If I bust, well I guess they know these free 100 dollar accounts will make more money then they cost them. Generally companies are rather smart about these things.

Ken

[Sammich]

So I found a nice RAF and signed up. How long does it take for the bonus to be applied? I want to start burning hands tonite but the traffic already seems to be dying. What is the best time to play on the Primas for .5/1 FL? Thanks for the info

[WiSeIVIaN]

pokersitescout.com has listings of site size at different times. If its mostly euro it will peak in the early afternoon, I do not know if this is the case however.

[DuderinoAB]

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it's no wonder promotions get taken away

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or the wagering requirements increase...

When I started playing online the wagering requirements were 2x the bonus. Now a bonus of 20x deposit AND bonus is considered very good. The crap that some players try to pull over on the casino, is a major reason why they have gone up.

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Yeah and the crap casinos try to pull on the players is one of the reasons why we try to take them for all they're worth...f#$% em. Plus, I don't really care about the guy who comes after me...I still get paid. Sorry for my lack of compassion...unless you wanna use my referral links that is /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[tonew]

This is specifically part of the t&cs of the bonus.....

<u>You are able to cash in your deposit and winnings at any point</u> , but remember that the bonus amount belongs to the poker room until you have raked 10 times your bonus amount on Ring Games only e.g. Purchase $100 and get $100 Bonus. Therefore to cash out you need to rake 1000 hands ($100 x 10 =1,000). Once you have met the requirements, your full deposit AND bonus amount are available for cash in. If you cash in and you have not reached the raked hand requirement, the bonus amount will be reversed back to your poker account. This means that the bonus amount will be subtracted from your cash-in amount first and then any surplus balance paid out.

Read the first line, they are obviously aware this is going to happen and have no problems with it.

I say if you are not breaking the terms what is wrong with what is happening. Please dont take a moral high ground unless you know all the information.

We are in no way harming future bonus prospects unless we are deliberatly breaking the rules which in this case we are not.

I can assure you if they did not want this to happen they would have prevented it. Looks like a smart move from Royal Vegas to entice players to their room and generate rake to me.

[2+2 wannabe]

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Looks like a stupid move from Royal Vegas to entice bonus whores to their room who don't generate near the rake that the bonus is worth, and once they realize that they incur higher fees by having people withdraw twice they will take away this offer

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[Ken_AA]

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Looks like a stupid move from Royal Vegas to entice bonus whores to their room who don't generate near the rake that the bonus is worth, and once they realize that they incur higher fees by having people withdraw twice they will take away this offer

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Ya but I STILL GOT MINE!!!!

Concerning my original post in this thread, the live support was wrong, I got my 100 bucks tonight and will be waiting for my money to go back to neteller before I take my shot.

Ken

PS I'm emailing this offer to all my dumb buddies so maybe they can get back in the game (all busto at party poker, my home game is awsome). Maybe the games will soften up.

[lonn19]

Vegaspokerpro.com offers a deal for royal vegas

[321Mike]

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Ya, but I got mine.

Honestly, you really care what kind of deal might be left around for others?

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You are hurting yourself in the long run.

These sites don't care about getting the business of bonus whores. They're trying to get the business of long term players. Those people are going to play whether there are bonuses or not. The only reason the online casinos and poker rooms offer these bonuses is to compete for the business of the long term players against other online casinos and B&amp;M casinos.

Now, look what happens when people take advantage of these bonuses the way we do. The casinos are forced to up the wagering requirements and reduce the bonuses - essentially, just make it harder to bonus whore. As Rez mentioned, bonuses have been getting harder and harder to get. And because of the nature of competition, when one room ups its requirements other casinos and poker rooms can offer worse bonuses and still compete. Bonus whoring at one casino does affect other casinos, and, therefore, affects you (assuming you'd like to collect more bonuses in the future).

A bonus like the one at Royal Vegas puts pressure on competing poker rooms to offer similar promotions. The more red flags we bonus whores raise, the faster this promotion gets shut down (or made much more difficult to collect). When that happens we'll be less likely to see similar bonuses at other rooms.

Of course, I'm not saying you shouldn't take advantage of these bonuses. I do it myself and highly recommend it. I just would like to see people being a little more subtle about it. Blatant bonus abuse like that will make things tighter in the future at all poker rooms, not just Royal Vegas.

[brandysbich]

As far as i know only VPP and royalpocket.com offer something extra for royal vegas (did mine through RP a couple weeks back but before this offer was on)

[chigger]

I signed up but I for one won't be collecting the $100 bonus. That goes to the guy who busts me out in a $100 SNG. I cashed out $90 of the original deposit leaving me enough for 1 $100+10 or 2 $50+5. I never get to play at these stakes so it will be a fun change. As others have said there a ton of 10X bonuses out there to grind out. Why not try something different with this one. If I win I'll cash out anything over $110 and repeat til I bust. And get this... They are going to get $10 of my money no matter what (more if I get lucky).

[Komodo]

How much do you got to play 1000 raked?
I got an account,but have never deposited there. Is this bonus
eligable for me?

[Ken_AA]

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Ya, but I got mine.

Honestly, you really care what kind of deal might be left around for others?

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You are hurting yourself in the long run.

They're trying to get the business of long term players.

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Dear God I hope I'm not still playing poker (seriously)/ casino whoring in more then another year or two. Once I have kids I want to spend as little time in front of the computer as possible.

So now whats the argument?

Ken

[coldcallchris]

Is the thing where u deposit 100 then withdraw it still give u their 100 to play with? Because I was going to try it but they have not given me a bonus yet? I didnt have to enter a bonus code in when i signed up did i?

[Ken_AA]

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Is the thing where u deposit 100 then withdraw it still give u their 100 to play with? Because I was going to try it but they have not given me a bonus yet? I didnt have to enter a bonus code in when i signed up did i?

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Wait 24 hours.

Ken

[coldcallchris]

its been over a day

[metsandfinsfan]

what if you refer somebody??? Does that void their 100% bonus??? It says only one bonus offer per person

[Markusgc]

Ummm, the software sucks. Hard.