Where to go from here?

[Smelly]

Hey all. I've been playing poker sparingly for the past year or so and am at Party .50/1 full ring limit currently.

I recently did the sign up bonus that Party gave me and now they offered me another $30 cashout restricted bonus so I'm going to start on that tonight.

I was looking at the BonusWhores site but I'm not sure where to go after this.

My bankroll right now is at $400 and after this current Party bonus it will be at $430. If my goal is to just build the bankroll up to a good amount(like 1k plus) where should I go?

Should I go sign up at Empire and do their bonus? Should I go to Absolute and get rakeback and start on their bonuses?

I'm interested in getting all the highest per hour rate bonuses that I can get out of the way, and then starting in on the repeating bonuses and sites that offer a lot.

Thanks very much.

[MR_WOLFF]

I think you should goto AP, I can refer you for an additonal amount of cash credited to your roll. You can also get 28% rakeback at www.pokersourceonline.com/rakeback (http://www.pokersourceonline.com/rakeback)

[schlucky1]

If I were you I would hit up BetFred for and easy $250, although this is best cleared @ $50 NL. I would also casino whore these casinos:

PlanetLuck
StarLuck
Intercasino
Bet365
GoldenPalace
Littlewood
EuroCasino
CasinoOnTheNet

This should get your bank to about $1500+ in less than 2-3 weeks (depending on how much spare time you have). Then you can start hitting up the B2B's for a nice $10-50+/hr playing breakeven (depending on stakes and # of tables). Also, the casinos listed are just the easy one's I've done. There are more out there.

[WiSeIVIaN]

I would suggest that you do not go to absolute unless you play 1/2 or higher. Also, do not go to empire until you have $500, because you want to get a full $100 bonus.
Take your $430 and sign-up through PSO for Paradise. It says the bonus is only up to $50 but its 25% up to $100. I would suggest U get pokertracker through PSO for free if you do not already have it. If you do have it buy a partypoker gift cerificate with your pts or get whatever else u want really. Next with your $530 go to empire (find an affiliate with a $100 sign-up bonus).

Once you have this you have 2 choice IMO. You can either withdraw your money back to your bank account, and set up and IGMPAY account and do the IGM bonuses for Party/empire ($100 each) or do starluck and planetluck casino sign-up bonuses (EV of each bonus is $92 or so, use a BJ strat chart). Also you can do IGM pay for these 2 casinos (EV of $92, I suggest you flat bet $1 so that varience wont bust you).

630+200+92(4)=$1198 and a $60 value aprox. value from PSO if you play breakeven poker.

Have a nice day. And yes, I am well aware that I'm the man /images/graemlins/wink.gif . See, it pays off to study bonuses instead of poker, lol.

[Smelly]

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If I were you I would hit up BetFred for and easy $250, although this is best cleared @ $50 NL. I would also casino whore these casinos:

PlanetLuck
StarLuck
Intercasino
Bet365
GoldenPalace
Littlewood
EuroCasino
CasinoOnTheNet

This should get your bank to about $1500+ in less than 2-3 weeks (depending on how much spare time you have). Then you can start hitting up the B2B's for a nice $10-50+/hr playing breakeven (depending on stakes and # of tables). Also, the casinos listed are just the easy one's I've done. There are more out there.

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Thanks for your post. I have a few questions.

What does B2B mean? How much would I be able to make at 1/2 limit on there.

Also, I have no clue to casino whore. Could you possibly point me in the right direction on this matter? I have heard of using an odds chart but how much should I bet if my bankroll is $400? I don't want to put too much of at risk you see. I'd hate to bust. /images/graemlins/frown.gif I have heard of this thing called autoplay where you don't have to do much at all? I have no clue about blackjack either so I'm a total casinonewbie. Any help would be totally appreciated.

Thanks for your help in advance

[brandysbich]

Casino whoring wouldnt put your whole bankroll at risk at all. For instance you deposit $100 into planetluck or starluck, they give you another $100 to play with, giving you altogether $200 to play with. Then you just use the appropriate blackjack chart for that casino and wager $1600 making $1 bets. Once you finish the wagering requiremnets you can withdraw whatevers left of the $200

The blackjack strategy charts are slightly less than breakeven in the longrun. I had a horrible run at my first casino and only just about broke even so you really would struggle to not make money on starluck and planetluck.

GL

[Sammich]

I could also use some casino whore tips.

[brandysbich]

also i found this link very helpful

http://www.bonusbug.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=casino;action=display;num=110963212 5

[Smelly]

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also i found this link very helpful

http://www.bonusbug.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=casino;action=display;num=110963212 5

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thats a fantastic and helpful link.

thanks so much brandy. do you know where i can find the appropriate blackjack charts for each casino? also, if I use say a starluck chart on another site will i still be able to make money? thanks.

[brandysbich]

depends on what type of blackjack the site plays. whether they stick on soft 17 (A6) or whether they hit on soft 17. How many decks they use and whether surrender is offered.

This is a very helpful website www.wizardofodds.com (http://www.wizardofodds.com)

So is this one for a list of good cashable bonuses you can clear using blackjack. www.casinodave.com (http://www.casinodave.com)

I'm really not that experienced with casinowhoring and have only done 4 casino's myself as it REALLY bores me, but i can't deny that its easy money. I've made about 500 bucks profit from the few i've done, and theres plenty more so you should have a 2k/3k BR sorted out within a month.

Also on the poker front i found these bonuses to be the best for newbies

Golden riveira $50
Wild jack $50
Royal vegas through royalpocket for extra $50
Bet365 $100
Boyle poker $100
Riverbelle $150 (if you deposit with NT and get RAF)
Paradise $100 through PSO..i think it still works
Tridentpoker $200
Pokerrewards $200
Betfred $250
all between 5x and 10x going from easiest to still pretty easy as you go down the list. GL

[Smelly]

thanks a lot.

can someone tell me how to check the amount i've wagered on starluck?

[jba]

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thanks a lot.

can someone tell me how to check the amount i've wagered on starluck?

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contact live support

[Smelly]

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thanks a lot.

can someone tell me how to check the amount i've wagered on starluck?

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contact live support

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jba, there is no way to check within the software? i have to wager $1600 and I'm doing $1 bets.

[BigDave]

Customer service is usually 8 hours behind, but they are the best bet for finding out your wagering.

Not that it matters at Starluck because they really do not care, I usually ask along the lines of "Is there anywhere in the software that tells me how much I have gambled" instead of asking "Have I met wagering requirements yet so I can cash out", even though I know full well that there is no place in the software that states it.

Like I said, at Starluck and Planetluck it is not going to make a difference, but I think it is a good habit to get into.

[Chomp]

I have never bonus whored, but from reading about it I would guess that a lot of weaker players probably loose a large amount of their bonuses trying to clear them.

I'd only chase after a bonus if I was sure my fundamental poker skills first.

[Smelly]

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Customer service is usually 8 hours behind, but they are the best bet for finding out your wagering.

Not that it matters at Starluck because they really do not care, I usually ask along the lines of "Is there anywhere in the software that tells me how much I have gambled" instead of asking "Have I met wagering requirements yet so I can cash out", even though I know full well that there is no place in the software that states it.

Like I said, at Starluck and Planetluck it is not going to make a difference, but I think it is a good habit to get into.

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so you are saying that i can't check my wagering except by emailing them? your post is kinda confusing to me. why can't i tell them that i'm clearing the signup bonus and want to know how much i wagered? i'm new to this.

[DuderinoAB]

At Starluck and Planetluck you don't have to worry about being labeled a bonus whore (at least I've never heard of anyone having that problem), but like Dave said, it is a good habit to get into asking support that way because at other casinos you will want to fly under the radar a bit more. Telling a casino that you're trying to clear the signup bonus would insinuate that you are only playing for the bonus. They won't particularly like that most of the time. Just a thought.

[Smelly]

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At Starluck and Planetluck you don't have to worry about being labeled a bonus whore (at least I've never heard of anyone having that problem), but like Dave said, it is a good habit to get into asking support that way because at other casinos you will want to fly under the radar a bit more. Telling a casino that you're trying to clear the signup bonus would insinuate that you are only playing for the bonus. They won't particularly like that most of the time. Just a thought.

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I understand. So if you guys had to wager 1600 and betting teh minimum each time, how often would you check with support to figure out how much you'd wagered? I just don't want to play more than 1600.

And does any casino have software that tells you how much you've wagered?

[grouchie]

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I think you should goto AP, I can refer you for an additonal amount of cash credited to your roll. I can also get you set up with a refferal for 28%rake....pm me or e-mail me for a link

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nothing against this guy, but if you are going to get RB anywhere, visit the RB forum.
Sign up with one of the big, trusted affiliates

[Smelly]

Ok so I'm playing at Starluck,

I see the odds chart here:

http://www.onlineblackjackguide.com/Casinolinks/starluck.gif

Two questions:

When they recommend doubling does that include doubling a split?

How come the recommendation for Ace-6 is different from 17. I know that ace can be 1 or 11 but on a non-ace included 17 it's a universal stay but on ace-6 it's a hit or double. why?

[Sharksfan]

I just did the planet Luck bonus a few days ago, I kept track of my own wagering with a pad of paper and pen next to me. I didn't want to be so obvious of contacting support to find out, I wanted to know on my own.

Some of the casinos do offer a way of seeing how much you've wagered. I'm currently working on Intercasino, and they have a Log that shows you up to the second, so that's nice, no pad and paper now.

But Planet Luck and Star Luck are probably the best place to start because they have the lowest wagering requirement, are very easy to set up with and very easy to cash out (if you use Neteller, which is almost a must of you're bonus whoring).

However, if you're new to Blackjack, then I suggest you go somewhere you can play for free and play ALOT until you get the chart down, it'll save you alot of money in the long run.

[Ineedaride2]

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I have never bonus whored, but from reading about it I would guess that a lot of weaker players probably loose a large amount of their bonuses trying to clear them.

I'd only chase after a bonus if I was sure my fundamental poker skills first.

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Huh? The BEST time to bonus whore is when you're learning the ropes. The extra cash comes in handy when you're struggling to break even.

[Smelly]

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I just did the planet Luck bonus a few days ago, I kept track of my own wagering with a pad of paper and pen next to me. I didn't want to be so obvious of contacting support to find out, I wanted to know on my own.

Some of the casinos do offer a way of seeing how much you've wagered. I'm currently working on Intercasino, and they have a Log that shows you up to the second, so that's nice, no pad and paper now.

But Planet Luck and Star Luck are probably the best place to start because they have the lowest wagering requirement, are very easy to set up with and very easy to cash out (if you use Neteller, which is almost a must of you're bonus whoring).

However, if you're new to Blackjack, then I suggest you go somewhere you can play for free and play ALOT until you get the chart down, it'll save you alot of money in the long run.

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Heya Sharks. What do u mean by get the chart down? I don't have it memorized yet so it's taking me about 20 seconds per hand but I'm following it to the t. This is ok right?

[jba]

"How come the recommendation for Ace-6 is different from 17. I know that ace can be 1 or 11 but on a non-ace included 17 it's a universal stay but on ace-6 it's a hit or double. why? "

hard 17 you can easily bust by hitting a five or larger card. that will happen a LOT.

you will NEVER bust by doubling a soft 17; it's impossible. when dealer shows 3-6 he will very often bust. it is best to get as much money as possible on the table when the dealer is about to bust.

[Smelly]

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"How come the recommendation for Ace-6 is different from 17. I know that ace can be 1 or 11 but on a non-ace included 17 it's a universal stay but on ace-6 it's a hit or double. why? "

hard 17 you can easily bust by hitting a five or larger card. that will happen a LOT.

you will NEVER bust by doubling a soft 17; it's impossible. when dealer shows 3-6 he will very often bust. it is best to get as much money as possible on the table when the dealer is about to bust.

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makes sense.

got any recs for memorizing the chart? i want to improve my speed at clearing this starluck bonus. is it really this easy? just look at the chart and do what it says? it's really easy but it's also really boring. it can't compare to poker in terms of interest.

[Packard]

Tape the blackjack chart to the side of your monitor while you play. Blackjack bonuses are the best bonuses

[2+2 wannabe]

always hit any hard amount 8 and less

always stand on hard 17 and higher

if dealer has 7 or higher showing, you will hit hard 12-16 always

if dealer has 6 or lower showing, you will stand on anything hard 12 and higher (except for your hard 12 vs a dealer 2 or 3)

double hard 9, 10, 11 vs dealer 3-6

this is like 95% of the strategy right here

[schlucky1]

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I understand. So if you guys had to wager 1600 and betting teh minimum each time, how often would you check with support to figure out how much you'd wagered? I just don't want to play more than 1600.

And does any casino have software that tells you how much you've wagered?

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I just played for about 2.5 hours then checked through live support. I was done with both PlanetLuck and StarLuck in this amount of time. I play pretty fast once I get going. Also, there are several casinos that allow you to check how much you've wagered via comp points or hand logs. There is a lot of info on this at www.casinobonuswhores.com (http://www.casinobonuswhores.com) and www.casinobonuspages.com. (http://www.casinobonuspages.com.)

[schlucky1]

A good way to count is to get a handheld click-counter (or whatever they're called). It's the thing you use for counting pitches in baseball or counting people going into a bar, ect. Easy to find at a sporting goods store. I'm sure you can order one online as well.

[Smelly]

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A good way to count is to get a handheld click-counter (or whatever they're called). It's the thing you use for counting pitches in baseball or counting people going into a bar, ect. Easy to find at a sporting goods store. I'm sure you can order one online as well.

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yeah i was just thinking this exact same thing! great idea thanks.

[Smelly]

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always hit any hard amount 8 and less

always stand on hard 17 and higher

if dealer has 7 or higher showing, you will hit hard 12-16 always

if dealer has 6 or lower showing, you will stand on anything hard 12 and higher (except for your hard 12 vs a dealer 2 or 3)

double hard 9, 10, 11 vs dealer 3-6

this is like 95% of the strategy right here

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this question is for anyone to answer:

say i get dealt deuces and i split them against a 7. one of the deuces is 21 and the other is 15. do i hit the 15 as the chart says or stay considering i already have 21 on one of them?

and should i be doubling splits?

[koolsavas]

because you are likely to get a ten when you double, giving you what you would have anyway (the example you mentioned, 17). and on those times where it says double, that also means the dealer is likely to bust. say you have A6 against dealer 6. since you can't go over no matter what, you double. even if you get a 5 and have twelve, that would be a stand at that point if you had only hit. plus with an ace, it can always get better too if you hit less than a 5 on A6, then you have better than 17, and 5 or over it's still going to be a stand. having an ace is like a free shot. notice how you do in fact stand on A6 vs dealer 2, because such a low card makes it more likely for the dealer to draw out on you, so doubling or hitting to a 12 would not be good. when it says to double on Ax, it is because odds are you will either improve or at worst you still have a staying hand if it was hard instead of soft.

and about a split and then double, treat a split just like two normal hands. the reason to split low pairs against low dealer cards is to play for the dealer bust, or to hopefully catch a good doubling hand. splitting high pairs is because having 8's makes only 16 but by splitting you get two chances to make 18, or you might catch a 2 or 3 to get a doubling hand.

as for counting how much i've played, i use 10 poker chips and a pen and paper. lay down a chip each time you start a hand, double, split. when all ten are down, mark a tick on the paper and repeat. plus after five or six bets, you can practice different manipulations with the chips left in your hand, which will make you look cool when you go to play for real somewhere.

and my chart doesn't say to split 6's against dealer 2. which is right, anyone? have i answered this all right? i'm quite new to basic strat myself.

[Smelly]

i understand.

but what if i have duplicates?

My last wager a minute ago(this hand confused the s-it out of me):


i got dealt 3 /images/graemlins/club.gif 3 /images/graemlins/spade.gif

dealer was showing a 6 /images/graemlins/heart.gif up.

I split my threes and ended up with

3/images/graemlins/club.gif3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif3/images/graemlins/club.gif

I split again and ended up with

3/images/graemlins/club.gif3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif6/images/graemlins/club.gif 3/images/graemlins/club.gif9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif

I stood on the 3/images/graemlins/club.gif9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif

I doubled down on the 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif6/images/graemlins/club.gif and ended up with 12: 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif6/images/graemlins/club.gif3/images/graemlins/heart.gif

Then I split up my remaining 3/images/graemlins/club.gif3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif pair and ended up with 3/images/graemlins/club.gifJ/images/graemlins/heart.gif and 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gifK/images/graemlins/diamond.gif as my third and fourth hands.

Yeah I had four hands going at once on the same wager due to multiple splits. I was confused as hell by this point and wasn't sure how the chart applied.

But the chart told me to stand on both the 3/images/graemlins/club.gifJ/images/graemlins/heart.gif and 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gifK/images/graemlins/diamond.gif hands, so I ended up with two hands of 13 and two of 12 against a 6 showing.

Dealer showed a second six for 12 and hit again to stand pat at 18, beating all four of my hands.

I felt like maybe the chart didn't cover this and I should have hit on a couple of my hands to give myself a chance to win.

What do you guys think? This hand honestly confused the hell out of me and i wasn't sure at all what to do. Splits and doubles ahh.

Cliffnotes:

I worked myself into four different hands in the same wager:

3/images/graemlins/club.gif9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif

3/images/graemlins/spade.gif6/images/graemlins/club.gif3/images/graemlins/heart.gif

3/images/graemlins/club.gifJ/images/graemlins/heart.gif

3/images/graemlins/diamond.gifK/images/graemlins/diamond.gif

I stood on all of these hands and lost to dealer's 18. Did I do anything wrong? I lost $5 total on this hand due to doubles, splits, etc even though I only started out with $1.

[2+2 wannabe]

you played this hand perfectly - just unlucky /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[koolsavas]

nope. always follow the chart. if the dealer had busted you would have won all four, right?? just bad luck. and every split and double counts toward the WR also, so don't forget to count them when keeping track.

some computer did a hundred bazillion fufillion hands and that is why we follow the chart. in the long run, it's advantageous to do what the chart says. on another thread i mentioned that i too am starting out with this and am only making minimal profits on my first few tries. however, if i keep at it, i will get some big payoffs to offset what i lost. maybe one day i will lose my original investment too, but in the long run it evens out.

as the sample size approaches infinity, it hones in on the true average; that is, as you play more and more hands, the profitability of making the decisions (which may seem silly like standing on 12) approaches maximum. you may lose 3 times in a row when doubling your 11 against a dealer 10, but if you played that same situation infinitely, you would make the most money by doubling. this is why it is the basic strategy, and why it was found by a computer, as it is the only practical way of compiling such a massive amount of data.

by the way, do you guys really think the casinos care that you whore? just like when card-counting was legal for a spell in AC, the casinos know that only a few people will use the bonus appropriately. more people will blow that all on slots trying to hit big than would grind through $1 bets for hours and hours at blackjack trying to break even. they wouldn't offer it at all if they thought whoring would be a problem, or they would take further steps to make it unprofitable, such as not allowing bj. they are obviously cool with it, since whoring websites can host the links of all the places and directly refer the players. the fact that the bonuses are even cashable at all lends to the fact that they expect some people to whore. right?

[Smelly]

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you played this hand perfectly - just unlucky /images/graemlins/frown.gif

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i have no problem with being unlucky, but if i have duplicates of 12s and 13s why shouldn't i hit on a couple of them to try to get higher point totals? is this chart designed for this situation so that if dealer busts i get paid 4x, but if he gets higher than my highest total i lose 4x? I trust that the chart is still +EV for the way i played this hand?

thanks

[koolsavas]

like i said, treat a split as if the other hands aren't even there. if you hadn't split, you just were dealt the same hand against the same or similar dealer upcard many times in a row, would you go against the chart just because standing on 12 lost the last few times? because if you hit any of them and bust, then you lose the potential to win if the dealer busts. in that situation, you are basically betting the dealer busts. and splitting three times probably won't happen to you again for a while. haha and if your highest total ends up being 22 then you win all the live ones if the dealer goes over that lol. but seriously, if you split 2's and make two 11's, then you get to double twice. you might get crappy cards and get drawn out on on both hands, but more often than not you'll either get a really high hand or the dealer will not beat you or better yet bust. would you think twice if all four hands after all the splits were doubling hands? if the chart says double, you are in the driver's seat. splits aren't always delicious-looking, but in every case the idea is to get two chances to improve on a mediocre hand. i hardly ever make 21's when i split my aces, but i still do it because it makes sense to.

[koolsavas]

i should be playing right now haha! 1300 of 8000 on golden, much work to do yet! but i haven't been on here in ages and i remembered they had this section on bonus whoring so i came to check it out.

[Chomp]

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I have never bonus whored, but from reading about it I would guess that a lot of weaker players probably loose a large amount of their bonuses trying to clear them.

I'd only chase after a bonus if I was sure my fundamental poker skills first.

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Huh? The BEST time to bonus whore is when you're learning the ropes. The extra cash comes in handy when you're struggling to break even.

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Huh?........

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...;gonew=1#UNREAD (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=6199850&an=0&page=0&gone w=1#UNREAD)

[Smelly]

Well I just finished clearing the Starluck $1600, and it took me about 6 hours because I had to keep looking at the charts. I am waiting to cash out since they said I have to wait up to 24 hours since my last wager on the bonus to be able to cash out. Anyone know why this is or has anyone else had to do this?

Anyway I deposited $100 at Starluck and they gave me the $100 bonus, and I wagered $1601 and am cashing out $202. I heard that the EV$ for this bonus is $+90 so I came out +102. Not bad, and I don't expect this luck to continue.

I did notice that for me the wins and losses seemed to come in long streaks of 5+, has anyone else noticed this? I'm probably just being dumb but it really seemed that way for me. And I'm not just saying it because I'm bitter- I mean I did come out ahead by quite a lot-just curious.

Smelly.

[Packard]

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Well I just finished clearing the Starluck $1600, and it took me about 6 hours because I had to keep looking at the charts. I am waiting to cash out since they said I have to wait up to 24 hours since my last wager on the bonus to be able to cash out. Anyone know why this is or has anyone else had to do this?

This is normal at starluck, planetluck and aceclub. Their system takes hours to update your wagered amounts.

I did notice that for me the wins and losses seemed to come in long streaks of 5+, has anyone else noticed this? I'm probably just being dumb but it really seemed that way for me. And I'm not just saying it because I'm bitter- I mean I did come out ahead by quite a lot-just curious.

These streaks are short term fluctiations. Forget about looking for patterns just keep grinding it out in blackjack /images/graemlins/cool.gif



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[Smelly]

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Well I just finished clearing the Starluck $1600, and it took me about 6 hours because I had to keep looking at the charts. I am waiting to cash out since they said I have to wait up to 24 hours since my last wager on the bonus to be able to cash out. Anyone know why this is or has anyone else had to do this?

This is normal at starluck, planetluck and aceclub. Their system takes hours to update your wagered amounts.

I did notice that for me the wins and losses seemed to come in long streaks of 5+, has anyone else noticed this? I'm probably just being dumb but it really seemed that way for me. And I'm not just saying it because I'm bitter- I mean I did come out ahead by quite a lot-just curious.

These streaks are short term fluctiations. Forget about looking for patterns just keep grinding it out in blackjack /images/graemlins/cool.gif



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thanks packard

i see you mentioned aceclub wtih the other two. is that part of the same umbrella company as well, and do they have a similarly good bonus? i am headed to planet after i cash out from star, and then maybe after that i'd do aceclub if it was good?

[Smelly]

I have another question. I heard from people that some casinos like Grand Online equire a drivers license scan and two copies of utility bills in my name. I live with my parents and I'm in college so I have no utility bills. I do have the drivers license. Should I not wager at this casino then?

[Smelly]

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I have another question. I heard from people that some casinos like Grand Online equire a drivers license scan and two copies of utility bills in my name. I live with my parents and I'm in college so I have no utility bills. I do have the drivers license. Should I not wager at this casino then?

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[foureightsuited]

fwiw when clearing betfred poker bonus they asked me for the same thing. I didnt have it either, so i just took pics on my phone's camera of my credit card and drivers license and emailed it to them. They were more than willing to do it this way.