PokerStars hand # 4.97B milestone thread

[Silent A]

Same routine as before.

I'll post my current best estimate:

10:30 pm ET

I'll update this at 8:30 pm ET (or maybe earlier if it looks like things are going very fast).

Get together 45 to 60 minutes prior.

AIM works great. See you later.

[HedonismBot]

Have you been able to get many tables going that consistently fold around?

[ImsaKidd]

What is the EV/table for this bonus? Like $.25??

[thing85]

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Have you been able to get many tables going that consistently fold around?

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Earlier, 6 of us were on 8 tables and had perfect, consistent folding going. Worked really well. If I'm around here later tonight when the next milestone approaches, I will post here and organize another group to do 8-table folding.

[jjigglers]

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What is the EV/table for this bonus? Like $.25??

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I'm guessing there's about 250-300 active tables during bonus time. With 6 people at the table, 5 get 2k, 1 gets 5k. 15k/6 people is 2.5k per person.

You have a 1/250 to 1/300 chance of getting it, which is $8-10 per table, I would assume by posting and folding, increase your chances at least 2x, so the EV should be much higher, eh?

Is there something wrong with my calculations?

[4_2_it]

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I'm guessing there's about 250-300 active tables during bonus time.

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There's currently over 9,000 active tables. Assuming half are play money and tourneys, that still leaves 4k+

[ImsaKidd]

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What is the EV/table for this bonus? Like $.25??

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I'm guessing there's about 250-300 active tables during bonus time. With 6 people at the table, 5 get 2k, 1 gets 5k. 15k/6 people is 2.5k per person.

You have a 1/250 to 1/300 chance of getting it, which is $8-10 per table, I would assume by posting and folding, increase your chances at least 2x, so the EV should be much higher, eh?

Is there something wrong with my calculations?

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I think your table calculation is off by a factor of 10. 9k active tables right now, even if 2/3rds are tourney/play money, thats still 3k tables.

[Dennisa]

OK lets take 3K tables. Its worth about a buck per table at 6 max since the winner of the hand gets 5K. At 8 tables its now worth 8 bucks and by folding you increase your chance by 2.5 times so around 15-20 bucks per go around. Stars is doing this 30 and I will probably participate around 20 of them so there is probaly a 1:7 to 1:9 chance of getting 2K or more during the promotion. My roll is less than 1K, I need to take hour breaks twice a day, so its not so bad.

YMMV, but then again, I am king idiot during the party spooky tickets promotion, I am just addicted to free money.

[Silent A]

There are 9217 active tables right now, of these only about 1300 are cash ring games. This is much fewer than I expected.

The qustion is how many tables open up just before the milestone. I'll watch this next time.

[Silent A]

BTW, hands are moving a bit slow right now. Looks like the next milestone will be closer to 11:00 pm ET.

I'll post my final estimate between 8:30 and 9:00 ET (it depends when I can get free from other duties).

[chezlaw]

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What is the EV/table for this bonus? Like $.25??

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I'm guessing there's about 250-300 active tables during bonus time. With 6 people at the table, 5 get 2k, 1 gets 5k. 15k/6 people is 2.5k per person.

You have a 1/250 to 1/300 chance of getting it, which is $8-10 per table, I would assume by posting and folding, increase your chances at least 2x, so the EV should be much higher, eh?

Is there something wrong with my calculations?

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There's also the bonus for vip status. Up to 120% for supernova.

I just play fast rather than manipulate the game. I have a vague recollection that Paradise had a clause prohibiting schemes like this - Are you sure its allowed?

chez

[HedonismBot]

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I just play fast rather than manipulate the game. I have a vague recollection that Paradise had a clause prohibiting schemes like this - Are you sure its allowed?

chez

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Pokerstars gave their blessing to our little scheme /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[jjigglers]

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I'm guessing there's about 250-300 active tables during bonus time.

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There's currently over 9,000 active tables. Assuming half are play money and tourneys, that still leaves 4k+

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Very raw assumption. STT/MTT/Play money cash/Play money tournaments account for at least 75%. There are only about 200-250 holdem tables open right now.

[jjigglers]

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I'm guessing there's about 250-300 active tables during bonus time.

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There's currently over 9,000 active tables. Assuming half are play money and tourneys, that still leaves 4k+

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Very raw assumption. STT/MTT/Play money cash/Play money tournaments account for at least 75%. There are only about 200-250 holdem tables open right now.

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I'm also going to venture to say that there's an absolute maximum of 1.5k max tables, with our EV still around $2 per table if we were playing as slow as everyone else, but at least $6 per table since we're folding ridiculously fast.

8 tables of this for 20 minutes is roughly 150 hourly, and fine with me.

All approximations of course.

[Silent A]

OK an early final prediction (forced by circumstance)

<font color="red"> 11:00 PM ET </font>

We should start arranging tables aboyt 45 minutes prior.

Ideally, set up AIM chat rooms (or the like) and form groups of 6, 9, or 10.

[Silent A]

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I just play fast rather than manipulate the game. I have a vague recollection that Paradise had a clause prohibiting schemes like this - Are you sure its allowed?

chez

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I asked PokerStars support if it was OK to openly agree to fold to the blinds as a milestone hand approached. They told me that they did not have a problem with it.

The gist of it was that (a) they felt that it was vulnerable to 1 guy wrecking it - stealing blinds - and (b) wouldn't increase the odds very much.

[chezlaw]

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I just play fast rather than manipulate the game. I have a vague recollection that Paradise had a clause prohibiting schemes like this - Are you sure its allowed?

chez

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Pokerstars gave their blessing to our little scheme /images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Fair enough, good luck then.

[golfinguy5]

The first day this promo came out I asked support if this was ok and they didn't have any problem with it. Thats why I was so eager to set it up last night

[grac]

What limits are we looking at doing? I might need to deposit.

[golfinguy5]

I guess we will do it like we did last night, join the chat room "milestonehand" on AIM. I guess we will do whoever joins first gets priority?

[grac]

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I guess we will do it like we did last night, join the chat room "milestonehand" on AIM. I guess we will do whoever joins first gets priority?

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Downloading it as we speak, didn't have aim on this comp.

[MYNAMEIZGREG]

NVM

[Ptolemy]

OK, I'll admit, I am AIM illiterate. How do you join a chat room?

[golfinguy5]

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OK, I'll admit, I am AIM illiterate. How do you join a chat room?

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At the bottom of aim go to "chat" then change the chat room name from "Chat0928759087345" to "milstonehand" and invite yourself. Or just PM me your SN

[thing85]

I'm setting up a chat again as well, and we need 2 more people. IM me at "thing85" for an invite.

[golfinguy5]

We just lost one player so we need a 6th now, IM "xxxxxx"

Edit: My tables are full so join the chat

[bulldawgblue]

does anyone else want to get a group started with me? The original one is being like gay high school social click.....

Meet in AIM chat room "milestonehand2"

[jack21221]

I need a group of 6 to join in with to post and fold in the next few minutes. IM me at BaltimoreGuy1129

[MYNAMEIZGREG]

I think we missed by 48

[actyper]

Too many [censored] out tonight. Had 2 people timeout right before it on a couple tables.

[jjigglers]

Yep, PokerStars Game #4970000048: Hold'em Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2006/05/17 - 23:04:06 (ET)

I'm going to assume that's like 10 hands off or so, due to the high % of tournament and play tables.

[grac]

Good try guys. Of course there was a misclick initially lol but pretty efficient folding. Waiting on silent to get his next prediction in now. 2+2 should be able to win at least one of these hands you'd think.

[jack21221]

Bah, I got stuck at about 3 tables where people wanted to play through their hands at .5/1 limit. They'd rather win that 3 dollar pot than play for 2-5k. Morons.

[bills217]

Technically speaking if they had a decent hand I think it would be higher EV for them to go ahead and play the hand. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[holland3r]

Be sure to delete these hand history files or your PT stats will be ruined!

[TomBrooks]

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Meet in AIM chat room "milestonehand2"

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I can't see how to join a chat room. I click on chat and it sets up for me to start and invite others to a chat room.

[Ptolemy]

I'm thinking these people are looking to make their 2K bonus by playing the hands while we all fold. +EV for them.

[Boxpressed]

47 hands short of the milestone over here playing NL10.

Won $23 over the last couple of days chasing the milestone, lol.

[jjigglers]

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Meet in AIM chat room "milestonehand2"

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I can't see how to join a chat room. I click on chat and it sets up for me to start and invite others to a chat room.

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Invite yourself. Change the name of the chat.

[TomBrooks]

OK, that worked. Thanks. No one is there now though. Feel free to PM me for the next one plus I'll keep an eye out here on the forum.
Cheers