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Andrew Karpinski

05-04-2006, 11:12 PM

Thanks /images/graemlins/smile.gif I have looked at the bonus grid a few times. For now I think my initial (first day deposits) will be :

Martins Poker :
(100% on $600), I think this is a 5x
Golden Riviera :
50% on $100 (clears well at $1/$2)
River Belle :
Deposit $200 ($125 bonus) + $25 Referal Friend Bonus ($1/$2)
Paradise :
Deposit $200 ($50 bonus) ($1/$2)
Ladbrokes Poker :
Deposit $400 ($100 bonus)
Sun Poker

Are there any that are better than this that I should do first?

I do tilt sometimes. I don't have a job, but have VERY few monthly expenses (can easily get by on between $500-$700 a month. This pays rent, food, utilities, etc.) I'm not a student or a pro.

I am pretty sure I can 8 table short handed as I 8 tabled the party 6 max $25 NL on a single computer before for a couple weeks and managed to make some cash.

I am gonna deposit into all of those at the start because it takes 2 days usually before you can cash out (from deposit) so by the time I get around to finishing the last ones I will already by able to cash out.

thing85

05-05-2006, 12:35 AM

Let me give you some realistic, down to earth advice/comments.

1) There really is no point in depositing $2000 over various sites all at the same time. Why can't you just deposit as you go? That way you'll have more cash on hand in case a site doesn't work out or you decide you'd like to play a different site than one you've listed.

2) You will not be able to 8-table on most of these sites, mainly because the table selection isn't as great as it is on Party. Also, you will come across generally better (or at least tighter) players on probably most besides Paradise. Just because you did well on Party for a few weeks does not indicate to me that you are a successful 8-tabler. You might just be running hot. 8-tabling when your skills aren't up to it can take a big hit to your bankroll. I don't know enough about you to make that call, but it's just something to think about.

3) As a general note, the fact that you don't know the difference in difficulty between full ring and short handed suggests that you are not a very experienced player. Also, $2/$4 and even $1/2 limit will probably be quite a bit harder than the $25NL you played on Party.

4) My final suggestion: Don't 8-table. The amount you lose by not being able to make accurate reads and correct decisions may offset your bonuses and the net effect will be a break-even or losing result if you aren't running hot.

I apologize if these comments seem harsh, but I don't want to see you posting here a month from now asking about ways to build up your bankroll from $50. Again, I may be way off base with my impression of you, but it's what I gathered from your posts in this thread.

Ken_AA

05-05-2006, 12:54 AM

How do you plan on 8 tabeling on one computer on sites that dont allow resizing tables?

Which of these sites do you have rakeback deals on?

Which of these sites do not allow rakeback but you can get an extra bonus from PSO or another affiliate?

2/4 IS A HUGE LEAP FROM PARTY 25NL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good luck.

Ken

William

05-05-2006, 01:01 AM

Your posts in this tread confirm that you are an idiot (wich I already knew from your posts at the zoo).

You know nothing about bonus whoring, about wich sites are the best and have a ridicolous plan and goals that will take you nowhere. Yet, you proudly present them as if you had discovered a gold mine. (and any serious player must be laughing at your list of sites)

You probably work at the local burger king and have (in my opinion) the mental age of a little boy that has discovered a new toy but doesn't realize that it is a dangerous one.

You sir, are a fish!

grac

05-05-2006, 01:33 AM

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I have decided I am going to 8 table bonus whore in 1 month.

Is $2000 US enough to do this with? Is there anything I should be thinking about? I have cleared only the party bonus.

What should be the first bonuses I hit? What are the worst bonuses I should accept? I am thinking 9x? Is $2/$4 limit a decent limit for bonus clearing? I am going to do it short handed I think, is full ring alot easier? I should do the 5x bonuses first right?

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Whoa Whoa Whoa. 8-tabling 2/4...Weren't you the guy who as asking for 5 cents because he wanted to play the mircos on stars. I as well as several others sent it so you could have a little fun. This was only a few days ago and now you want to set up a $2,000 roll for whoring. If you don't have the money to blow do not do it, if you are a student definetly do not do it. PEACE

Andrew Karpinski

05-05-2006, 01:36 AM

Hello all! Perhaps there are some misinferences you have all drawn from my post. I am not claiming to be a great (or even good) player. I am merely listing a plan of action for clearing some INTERNET BONUSES and wondering if any posters had advice for me on the INTERNET BONUSES I am about to clear. Thank you for the comments already made.

thing85 : Thank you for your realistic post. It is clear you have taken the time to read my post and provide a thoughtful response, I am greatful. Here are my answers :

The reason I want to deposit the $2000 at once is because I feel I will need the money back in my neteller account quickly to resume bonus whoring. I will be 8 tabling for 10ish hours a day to start. That is 80 table hours a day, or roughly $400-$600 in bonus cleared in the first day. $2000 deposited will probably get me between $500-$1500 in bonuses. Since it takes (roughly) 24 hours to cash out from the site to my neteller account, I could potentially run out of bonuses to clear even on the first day. I could easily run out on the 2nd or third day. Since it takes (usually) 2 days of your money being at a site before you can cash out, this allows me to get the money back to my neteller account faster. Does this make sense?

I will not be 8 tabling on most sites. I will be 4 tabling one site and 4 tabling another.

I plan on 8 tabling using a dual monitor set up, with 4 tables on one monitor and 4 tables on the other. I will not be getting rakeback on any sites; I do have some plans for affiliate sign ups, but I don't want to post about that here, as that's a matter for A/R I think.

Andrew Karpinski

05-05-2006, 01:40 AM

grac : I am getting a large amount of $$$ from a lawsuit. I am not exactly 'new' to poker, and have been playing games with $2 buy ins to $1000 buy ins for the last 3 years now. I only actually asked for 4 cents from one person so I could mess around with the 16 cents I had in my pokerstars account. The thread went in a different direction from there, and I was grateful for it, but that was not my intention.

grac

05-05-2006, 01:46 AM

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grac : I am getting a large amount of $$$ from a lawsuit. I am not exactly 'new' to poker, and have been playing games with $2 buy ins to $1000 buy ins for the last 3 years now. I only actually asked for 4 cents from one person so I could mess around with the 16 cents I had in my pokerstars account. The thread went in a different direction from there, and I was grateful for it, but that was not my intention.

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True I understand but my worry is that you will end up losing money on these bonuses. I suggest you invest that lawsuit money instead of using it to whore. Even if you are successful and don't encounter any downswings or poor play the amount you will be making hourly will continue to be quite minimal. Playing poker to simply break even and clear bonuses has it's place but it is also very dangerous. Good luck.

Andrew Karpinski

05-05-2006, 01:47 AM

well, if I broke even on poker and just made bonii, I would get between $40 and $70 an hour.

WordWhiz

05-05-2006, 01:59 AM

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I will be 8 tabling for 10ish hours a day to start.

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No you will not.

Andrew Karpinski

05-05-2006, 02:08 AM

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I will be 8 tabling for 10ish hours a day to start.

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No you will not.

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ok thanks for clearing that up.

godofgamblers

05-05-2006, 02:29 AM

People are sounding harsh on this thread, but the advice they give is generally sound. If you've never had experience with 2/4 ONLINE (completely different from live) then don't start out that high. That limit is not very easy to beat at all, especially if you're 8 tabling. 10 hours a day 8 tabling is also near impossible to do for more than a day or two, you'll simply burn out.

If you don't have proven stats, you can't just assume that you can at least break even at 2/4, because at that level it isn't a given that the general weak tight tight agg is going to work. The sites you mention also do not require you to play as high as you think. Golden Riviera, River Belle, Paradise, and to a extent Martin's you can easily clear at .5/1 and 1/2. I think it'd be wiser to 4 table 1/2 and move on up, because the skill level between 1/2 and 2/4 are similar, but the stakes are less so you know where you stand. .5/1 is LOADS easier, so maybe you can choose to skip that if you know you have a solid game.

To sum up, for the average person starting to bonuswhore/grind out lower limits, it is almost impossible to start out 8 tabling 2/4 for 10 hours a day without losing heavily. It's safer to play the limits that you prove you can beat over a couple thousand hands, especially since the beginning bonuses you mention (add bet365, betfred) can be cleared fine at .5/1 and 1/2.

SoCalRugger

05-05-2006, 02:30 AM

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I will be 8 tabling for 10ish hours a day to start.

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No you will not.

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ok thanks for clearing that up.

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It's true. You'll feel like killing yourself after the first day.

Andrew Karpinski

05-05-2006, 02:33 AM

I 8 tabled the party $25 for about two weeks, on a crappy laptop, playing 20k hands in those two weeks. Here I will be 8 tabling on a desktop with two monitors allowing no overlap. I might only play 7 hours, but I think it's more likely I'll play 12. I love poker.

I definitely will play the lowest limits I can while clearing at a $5/hr basis.

godofgamblers

05-05-2006, 02:41 AM

Party $25 is probably one of the easiest games you'll ever play, with 2/4 limit being much much tougher. I think the biggest thing flaw in your plan everybody saw was you jumping from Party $25 to 8 tabling 2/4 on various sites. It's a much different game.

Also assuming 50 hands per hour 8 tabling will get you 400 hands an hour. If you actually played as much as you planned, isntead of 20k hands in two weeks you'd be playing 56,000...

Good luck to you though.

SoCalRugger

05-05-2006, 02:43 AM

6-max limit tables get closer to 100 hands/hour, not 50.

godofgamblers

05-05-2006, 02:45 AM

Heh I assumed full ring cause I suck and I can't 8 table 6-max with overlap /images/graemlins/frown.gif

Andrew Karpinski

05-05-2006, 03:07 AM

So, (and I think I agree with this), the weakest part of my plan is the question, can I beat / break even at $2/$4 limit, either short handed or full ring.

How can I find out if I can beat that game? I am pretty sure I can. Clearly playing alot of hands at that limit is a great test. I think reading the small stakes limit forum I come up with the 'right' answer to most hand posts (not based on results, but based on all the various factors of decision making).

I have played games besides the party $25 NL. I have played limit games from .02/.04 - $30/60 (in my undisciplined days of the past).

betadecay

05-05-2006, 03:36 AM

alright, from a seasoned multi-tabler.

[I play 10 tables of full ring when I'm going at it hard(during a crazy promo or after a break, or when the GF is out of town) or 8 tables of 6 max(when i'm really cracked out, 9). Usually at least 5 hours a day. Sometimes 7. I've put in over 90k hands in a month before. ]

Being able to multi-table well is more then playing good poker. You have to have good focus, good stamina, good multi-tasking skills, good emotional control, and already have a good feel for the player base. I don't know where you stand on the first of these skill sets. If you are young 20's or late teens you are probably fine. If you regularly exercise and eat well you are probably fine. However you will not have a good feel for the player base of any of these sites. That is big no-no for 8 tabling. BIG NO NO.

Secondly, multi-tabling short hand will give your win rate a big hit. If you win at 3bb/100 while 4 tabling, expect to be winning between .5 and 1bb /100 while 8 tabling. 6 max is way to dependant on opponent profiling to sustain a good winrate 8 tabling. Now add the fact that the player base at these sites will be completely new(no hud stats), and you are definately in the dog house. If you beat 2/4 for 1bb/100, expect to be losing at -2bb/100. Expect your winrate for the later hours to be worse(hours 5 through 8). I would expect a slightly winning player that undertook this plan of yours to be losing between 4 and 500 bucks a day.

Secondly you have to have very good grip on your emotions. I think you mentioned tilt or something. Try having 8 tables, 2 of them dealt you aces, another dealt you kings, and another you flop a flush, and you lose all but 1 of these hands with in a span of 5 minutes. This will happen more then you expect when you 8 table. You will be up 20 bbs and then 10 minutes later you will be down 50bbs. That's alot to go through and still make good decisions.

Another problem to face, is that alot of these sites have bad table selection. There is just too much going against you here. My suggestion is to not play more then 5 tables of 2/4 short hand, or maybe 6 tables of 1/2 or under. Even then this is probably something you should not do for 8 hours unless you are a viril lively healthy individual. I would say cap it at 5 hours. Go for a jog every morning. Look to take 20 minute breaks around 3 hour intervals. During these breaks do some light aerobics or maybe some yoga. I don't know how good you are at poker, or how good you are with emotional management. But multi-tabling lots of tables for over 3 hours is not something everyone is capable of.

rowdyclassmate

05-05-2006, 03:45 AM

Good advice in the last post. When I first started multi-tabling, I bought myself a second monitor. I found myself distracted and started 8 tabling. It took some time to get comfortable with that much going on. I would suggest starting at 4 and gradually adding a table or two. Good luck!

gutte169

05-05-2006, 04:33 AM

Okay, since everyone is being a little harsh, i'll try and give you some sound recommendations rather than telling you that you're an idiot.

1) First of all, your sites list is pretty bad. A few of the sites you are simply not going to find 4 tables to play at all the time, not to mention that they will be full of bonus whores who are fairly decent players. Play a few crypto's (interpoker is a good $100) and pick 1 site that has a big bonus to clear (UB, FT, AP, etc.), also get rake back at that site. You should only have money in 3 cardrooms at a time, and make sure you have extra waiting in neteller. There's 2 reasons for this: 1) party and stars are by far the best bonuses, but they often come on short notice and you need money ready to deposit without waiting for withdraws. 2) If you have your $2000 spread across 5 sites, that's only $400 at each site. That means the first site you have a 100 or 200BB downswing, you are broke there. It's just a bad idea. Keep it simple.

2) Diving into 2/4 is a bad idea for you. I see you've played a few years, and that you have a lot of experience at multiple games, but 2/4 is simply a hard game to beat especially outside of the biggest 3 or 4 sites. Start at half and half .50-1 and 1-2. If you plan on 6-8tabling .50/1 and 1/2 (which I think is a good idea personally), and can make only 2BB/100, you will making $10-$15 per hour already before bonus/RB. Playing 2/4, I guarentee you will have a 200BB downswing within 2 weeks. That's a downswing of about half your bankroll within your first month of play. It's frustrating, you'll get burnt out, you'll play less, and most likely tilt off a few chips.

Again, I agree that you should play as many tables as you can while learning the game. I also agree that 8 hours a day isn't that much if you don't have many other responsibilities. I mean, 3 or 4 two-hour sessions is pretty easy during summer days with nothing much to do. However, take breaks. Give yourself 1 or 2 days off each week to look over a few hands, have PT run a session in front of you, look at your numbers a little, review a few hands on 2+2, etc....

About full table or 6max, I can't say much. I've played way more full table, and I think it's fine for bonus clearing and fine for multitabling. The swings at 6max can be a little ugly with a shortish bankroll, and the level of play at 6max is getting higher by the day (from what i've seen), but most 'new' players playing online, stick with what they've seen in casinos and on TV which is full ring.

Anyways, that's my free advice, hope it helps and good luck.

snowbank

05-05-2006, 06:10 AM

I definitely will play the lowest limits I can while clearing at a $5/hr basis.

Why would you want to make $5 per hour!?!?! I'm sure you are capable of making more than this, so why bonus whore for $5 an hour?

froggy527

05-05-2006, 07:37 AM

Do I sense a major "Crash and Burn"(with a little dose of
reality thrown in!)coming? Isn't 900 2+2 posts in a
month a record?

Don't get me wrong! I wish you the best of luck.Like others the one thing I question is why? Is there a reason why you
feel the need do all of these at once? And since you seem
concerned with tying money up,I wonder if you can afford to
be risking a lot of money at once? Why not do one bonus at a
time and concentrate on your game instead of seeing how many
tables you can play at one time!

thirteen

05-05-2006, 08:55 AM

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How can I find out if I can beat that game? I am pretty sure I can.

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If you need to ask this, you're not ready for 2/4 and probably not even 1/2.

People here may sound harsh, but they're giving you advice, and given that these posters have a higher experience level than you, I think you should take it.

Your poker maturity/experience level is not what it needs be to pull off what you want to do and we can already see a post coming 2 weeks from now titled:

"500BB downswing at 2/4, what am i doing wrong?"

You're inexperience will cause you to be unable to determine if an extended losing streak is due to you running bad, or getting run over by your competition. And although you've dabbled in higher stakes games before you haven't played a meaningful number of hands to really know if you have what it takes to beat anything other than NL 25 on party.

You can do what you want, but understand that jumping into a 2/4 game when you're not sure that you can even break even at the game is flat out gambling.

Good Luck, let us know how things go.

Andrew Karpinski

05-05-2006, 10:03 AM

If anyone has some advice on the bonuses themselves that would be great. I'm not sure why all the hostility... but that's cool. I don't really care.

Someone recommended full tilt and absolute? I am only interested in bonuses that clear at $5 / hr / table or higher. One poster said 'why $5 / hr'? That's $5/hr/table... or $40.

Anyway, this post is giving me great motivation to succeed and show you all and laugh. But if anyone has some comments on WHICH BONUSES to do, or anything concerning the bonuses / sites taht would be awesome.

thirteen

05-05-2006, 10:44 AM

Absolute and Full Tilt have large bonuses that are clearable at 2/4.

godofgamblers

05-05-2006, 10:47 AM

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Anyway, this post is giving me great motivation to succeed and show you all and laugh.

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I don't see why anyone would help you anymore after this line. All the posts in this thread were helpful, realistic responses, just not the optimistic ones you expected. People are giving you advice and you don't want to take it, and instead you want to "show them up". You've never actually beaten the game, now you suddenly want to beat it 8 tabling for 10 hours. Ok. Wait until a couple people needle you when you're actually playing...

OrianasDaad

05-05-2006, 10:49 AM

If you've got the poker skills to play eight tables (and still be a winning player), then you should have the skills needed to evaluate the respective value of different bonuses and their respective structures. I actually enjoy planning my next couple weeks of bonus-hunting.

That being said...

If you want to play 2/4, then try the Ongame network. Those bonuses should clear fairly fast at 2/4, and the 7x bonuses work out to 100% rakeback, which effectively negates their high rake at that limit. These bonuses typically are fairly large. You can play 4 tables at these sites.

The b2b network should be good for you as well, 5x at many, but remember that euros are worth about 21% more than $$, and plan your depositing accordingly. There's a small conversion fee. I don't know how many tables you can play at these sites.

Prima has some good signup bonuses which clear very fast at 1/2 and higher, but remember you technically only get one bonus per sub-network.

Remember to do your research on a site before you go putting money into it. Make sure you have read and understood the T&C for the site, and don't hesitate to e-mail customer support should you have any questions.

There's lots of information on this board, and on BW in this regard, and many of your questions have already been answered. This is likely to be the cause of hostility. It's also counter-intuitive that a player who has had to study and practice for a good deal of time should have to ask elementary questions about bonus-hunting that have been asked ad naseum in the past.

My policy is to post less, and read more. Mostly because I'm certainly not going to change anyone's mind with my opinion, but in small part because you jokers haven't earned access to my thoughts. /images/graemlins/wink.gif /images/graemlins/grin.gif /images/graemlins/wink.gif

Edit: If you can't beat 2/4, then 8-tabling it will only compound the errors that you make. Small leaks will leak faster with the more tables you play. By all means, if you want to play a slightly losing or break-even game, then go ahead. Answering the questions right in the small stakes forum is a good way to exercise your mind, but there's a distinct difference between theory and practice.

There's also the theory that the more tables you add the lower your winrate will be. In online poker, that's measured in BB/100. If you are a breakeven player, or even a slightly winning player, then you don't have much room to play with as far as your winrate is concerned.

Eventually, the bonus bonanza will dry out (I could be wrong), and breakeven bonus-whores will be left out in the cold, dying slowly to the rake. Learning to maintain a good winrate is much more valuable than learning which bonuses will negate the balance of your own poor play.

Andrew Karpinski

05-05-2006, 11:09 AM

Thank you OrianasDad, that is an exceptionally helpful reply. Do you know where I can get information about the OnGame network? I don't see any listings at bonuswhores.

Andrew Karpinski

05-05-2006, 11:10 AM

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The full tilt bonus clears at $3/hr at $2/$4. While the bonuswhores chart claims that the bonus clears at $5/hr I am sure it is $2 or $3 at best due to the tightness of the games. The clear rates are based on parties looseness.

winchips

05-05-2006, 11:22 AM

thing85

05-05-2006, 11:48 AM

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If anyone has some advice on the bonuses themselves that would be great. I'm not sure why all the hostility... but that's cool. I don't really care.

Someone recommended full tilt and absolute? I am only interested in bonuses that clear at $5 / hr / table or higher. One poster said 'why $5 / hr'? That's $5/hr/table... or $40.

Anyway, this post is giving me great motivation to succeed and show you all and laugh. But if anyone has some comments on WHICH BONUSES to do, or anything concerning the bonuses / sites taht would be awesome.

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In that case, I would jump right into 5/10 on Absolute. They give great bonuses and if you can sign up with a rakeback deal, you'll be able to clear hundreds of dollars worth of bonus money. With a solid win rate, you can easily pull at least $10/hr/table.

Artsemis

05-05-2006, 12:14 PM

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I have decided I am going to 8 table bonus whore in 1 month.

Is $2000 US enough to do this with? Is there anything I should be thinking about? I have cleared only the party bonus.

What should be the first bonuses I hit? What are the worst bonuses I should accept? I am thinking 9x? Is $2/$4 limit a decent limit for bonus clearing? I am going to do it short handed I think, is full ring alot easier? I should do the 5x bonuses first right?

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you have a lot of posts in a short time and you appear to be an idiot

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Idiot or not, what's the relationship number of posts has to do with it? There's so many forums on 2+2 unrelated to poker, or even gambling. If i recall he's big on the werewolf game thing.

Sorry for derailing. =d

Canard

05-05-2006, 12:18 PM

Andrew,whilst trying to avoid sounding 'harsh', of the many disturbing elements to your plan, the one that disturbs the most is the certainty that appears to come through in your posts that your worst case scenario in this endeavor is that you only break even on table play and have the bonuses as profit.

In answer to your specific question, the ongame network is listed at BW under 'Poker Network'.

thirteen

05-05-2006, 12:40 PM

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I have decided I am going to 8 table bonus whore in 1 month.

Is $2000 US enough to do this with? Is there anything I should be thinking about? I have cleared only the party bonus.

What should be the first bonuses I hit? What are the worst bonuses I should accept? I am thinking 9x? Is $2/$4 limit a decent limit for bonus clearing? I am going to do it short handed I think, is full ring alot easier? I should do the 5x bonuses first right?

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you have a lot of posts in a short time and you appear to be an idiot

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This kind of response is not necessary. And post count has little if anything to do with the thread.

OP is simply too inexperienced at this time to realize some of the errors in his statements. If he 8 tables 2/4 for 10 hours a day you can rest assured he'll see these errors pretty quickly unless he runs super hot.

OP, Crypto also has some good monthly bonus + rakeback deals.

RikaKazak

05-05-2006, 12:56 PM

Don't listen to people who hate. I would say though, you're probably overally excited about your past performace. Maybe you're a great player, maybe you're running hot, I can't comment on that.

But like many have said, NL 25 on party is super easy. So if I was you, I would bonus whore etc. BUT!!! I would not 8 table (probably 2-4 tables) and I would concentrate more on getting than, than getting crazy bonuses.

just my 2 cents, hope it helps a little.

RikaKazak

05-05-2006, 01:00 PM

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Don't listen to people who hate. I would say though, you're probably overally excited about your past performace. Maybe you're a great player, maybe you're running hot, I can't comment on that.

But like many have said, NL 25 on party is super easy. So if I was you, I would bonus whore etc. BUT!!! I would not 8 table (probably 2-4 tables) and I would concentrate more on getting than, than getting crazy bonuses.

just my 2 cents, hope it helps a little.

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meant to write "getting better" rather than focusing on whoring.

Punker

05-08-2006, 02:41 AM

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I 8 tabled the party $25 for about two weeks, on a crappy laptop, playing 20k hands in those two weeks

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If you are 8tabling, you should be playing 600-800 hands per hour. 20K hands represents at most 35 hours of play, or approximately 2.5 hours per day at this rate. Not the 10 hours you plan to do.

MicroBob

05-08-2006, 04:30 AM

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I am going to do it short handed I think, is full ring alot easier?

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If you don't even know whether you are going to do this SH or full-ring then I don't think you are ready to 8-table at 2/4 limit for 10 hours/day.

On some sites the answer will be made for you already in that only one or the other may be offered.

It is also something to get used to a site's software when yo ufirst start playing there. I don't recommend 8-tables while you are adjusting to this.

How much limit have you played?
How much 8-tabling limit experience do you have?

Do you really think that 10 hours/day of 8-tabling is a good idea?

Many experienced bonus-whores and multi-tabling grinders are giving you some sound advice.

You could try 3 or 4 tabling the 1/2 limit tables for a little while instead of just ASSUMING that you can play a winning game right now.
You could even consider playing 2 or 3 tables of limit 6-max to learn that game a bit better too.
You could consider listening to some pretty sound advice that many are giving you.

Fishy McDonk

05-08-2006, 01:51 PM

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alright, from a seasoned multi-tabler.

<u>when i'm really cracked out</u> [/b] , 9). Usually at least 5 hours a day. Sometimes 7. I've put in over 90k hands in a month before. ]

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Secondly you have to have very good grip on your emotions.

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Even then this is probably something you should not do for 8 hours unless you are a viril lively healthy individual . I would say cap it at 5 hours. [i] Go for a jog every morning . Look to take 20 minute breaks around 3 hour intervals. During these breaks do some light aerobics or maybe some yoga . I don't know how good you are at poker, or how good you are with emotional management . <snip>

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At what point do you take the crack?

MyTurn2Raise

05-08-2006, 02:29 PM

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Thank you OrianasDad, that is an exceptionally helpful reply. Do you know where I can get information about the OnGame network? I don't see any listings at bonuswhores.

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OnGame is pokerroom, holdempoker, hollywood, betsson, pokerloco, checknraise, eurobet, europoker, aloha, americascardroom, newyorkpoker, etc

You've already had at least 4 big-time multi-tablers tell you this already, but I'll add on too: YOU ARE NOT READY FOR THIS.

learn to beat 2/4 2-tabling first. YOu'll get massacred in short-handed. B2B sites will chew you up if you play limit. so on and so forth

spend less time posting and more time reading/digesting what is on these forums.

That said, I wish you luck.

nittakupal

05-08-2006, 05:24 PM

Bankroll management pwns you.

OrianasDaad

05-09-2006, 07:16 AM

I thought of a phrase that exactly voiced my feelings towards questions.

Those that ask questions find only answers, but those that seek answers for their questions find answers to questions they never thought to ask.

Guy McSucker

05-09-2006, 11:45 AM

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I have played limit games from .02/.04 - $30/60 (in my undisciplined days of the past).

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... as opposed to your undisciplined days of now, when you seem to be playing 15/30 6-max (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=5744557&an=0&page=0#Post 5744557).

Good luck man!

Guy.

Punker

05-10-2006, 04:13 PM

Carry on soldier... (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=0&Number=5765211)

kiddo

05-10-2006, 05:50 PM

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I am pretty sure I can 8 table short handed as I 8 tabled the party 6 max $25 NL on a single computer before for a couple weeks and managed to make some cash.

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I read most posts in this thread and it was fun. You clearly dont understand what is going to hit you. You are going to bonuswhore at a limit u got no idea if u can beat at 8 tables SH. Hehe, its like buying a guitarr because u seen how much money u can make if u just get one hit as a rocksinger.

U say u arent a student and dont have a job. But I bet u arent older then 18? U have to be very young to not understand - after reading all good posts here - that this whole idea is stupid.

Andrew Karpinski

05-10-2006, 05:53 PM

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I am pretty sure I can 8 table short handed as I 8 tabled the party 6 max $25 NL on a single computer before for a couple weeks and managed to make some cash.

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I read most posts in this thread and it was fun. You clearly dont understand what is going to hit you. You are going to bonuswhore at a limit u got no idea if u can beat at 8 tables SH. Hehe, its like buying a guitarr because u seen how much money u can make if u just get one hit as a rocksinger.

U say u arent a student and dont have a job. But I bet u arent older then 18? U have to be very young to not understand - after reading all good posts here - that this whole idea is stupid.

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I'm 21.