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whatshisname
05-04-2006, 03:57 PM
This post is for those that play at the lower limits, but I am thinking about depositing some money into full-tilt and I was wondering if anyone could let me know how easy/hard it is to clear their 100% bonus up to 600. I was thinking about depositing >600$ and starting out at .25-.5.

I decided to move their partly because of the bonus, but also because I have heard the ring games are really soft. If anyone can speak from experience ... is it realistic to hope to clear most of the bonus at the stakes I plan to play?

Thanks

ThunderEagle
05-04-2006, 04:22 PM
I've been looking at this one lately trying to figure out if it is worth my time.

You earn .06 in bonus for each point earned. A point is $1 in rake, partial points can be earned.

So, using a guess of .50 rake per hand at .50/1.00, I figure it to be 666 raked hands to earn $20 of bonus. I was thinking of depositing $200, and so that puts me at ~6660 raked hands to clear my whole $200 bonus. I'm guessing this will be around 7k (7.5k?) real hands to clear @ .50/1

At most I generally only play 3 tables, and that is usually only for about an hour when I first start to play, then I drop to 2 tables. So, I'll guess I get about 100 rake hands an hour 2 tabling (that is probably more like actual hands, not raked) so I would take me ~70 hours to clear? Is my math good here? That almost sounds like work compared to Party's bonuses. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

I guess this is a 17x bonus (at .50/1 limit anyhow), but for 100% I guess that is pretty good? I'm fairly new to bonus chasing.

HSB
05-04-2006, 04:27 PM
I just cleared the $300 reload in about two weeks playing primarily $50 NL Six max.

It's going to depend on how much you play of course but you get something like four months to clear the initial $600 which I did primarily at the $25 NL full and $50 NL full.

It's not a quick hitter bonus by any stretch.

Make sure you get rakeback. Bonus and rakeback combined give you about 70% of your rake back.

I originally cleared most of the initial deposit bonus at $25NL full ring.

Markusgc
05-04-2006, 04:27 PM
They give you 4 months to do it and release it in $5 increments. Not good for a hit n' run, but good if you stack it w/something from PSO.

playersare
05-04-2006, 04:29 PM
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So, using a guess of .50 rake per hand at .50/1.00, I figure it to be 666 raked hands to earn $20 of bonus. I was thinking of depositing $200, and so that puts me at ~6660 raked hands to clear my whole $200 bonus. I'm guessing this will be around 7k (7.5k?) real hands to clear @ .50/1

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you'll have to double those estimates since on most sites (Party excluded), a $5 pot typical of 50c/$1 LHE will rake 25c, not 50c.

I wouldn't bother with the Full Tilt bonus until you're grinding at least $2/4 limits, and even then there's still better stuff out there.

HSB
05-04-2006, 04:32 PM
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They give you 4 months to do it and release it in $5 increments. Not good for a hit n' run, but good if you stack it w/something from PSO.

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They actually release it in $20 increments if you deposit for the full amount so there's really no reason not to deposit the full amount if you have it available. If you don't clear the whole thing it just expires, they don't send people around to break your kneecaps.

I don't think you want to stack it with PSO though, I think you want to get the rakeback.

To clear $600 in bonus requires 10,000 points which is $1,111 in MGR at 9 handed tables. Subtract the bonus and you're getting rakeback on $511 which is a little more than $130. I don't think the PSO promotions are generally worth $130 are they? And regardless, with PSO you'd be forgoing rakeback on their regular reloads.

HSB
05-04-2006, 04:36 PM
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So, using a guess of .50 rake per hand at .50/1.00, I figure it to be 666 raked hands to earn $20 of bonus. I was thinking of depositing $200, and so that puts me at ~6660 raked hands to clear my whole $200 bonus. I'm guessing this will be around 7k (7.5k?) real hands to clear @ .50/1

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you'll have to double those estimates since on most sites (Party excluded), a $5 pot typical of 50c/$1 LHE will rake 25c, not 50c.

I wouldn't bother with the Full Tilt bonus until you're grinding at least $2/4 limits, and even then there's still better stuff out there.

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You get partial points proportional to the rake so you never get hosed by a raked hand not counting as a raked hand and if the rake is more than the average, you get more than the average in points.

ThunderEagle
05-04-2006, 04:41 PM
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you'll have to double those estimates since on most sites (Party excluded), a $5 pot typical of 50c/$1 LHE will rake 25c, not 50c.


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Ahhh, I was basing that figure on Party. I think most $5 pots on Pokerroom were .50 rake too.

Well, yeah, that would take a while then.

Any suggestions for low limit bonuses then? I already have Party and Pokerroom accounts (stars too, but not a lot of bonus there), so I'm pretty wide open. Oh, I've done casino.net too, and didn't care for it, and they have really made thier bonus not worth the time now anyhow.

Markusgc
05-04-2006, 04:57 PM
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They actually release it in $20 increments if you deposit for the full amount so there's really no reason not to deposit the full amount if you have it available. If you don't clear the whole thing it just expires, they don't send people around to break your kneecaps.

I don't think you want to stack it with PSO though, I think you want to get the rakeback.

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Advanced Whoring 201

Yeah, I just put in the minimum to get a gift. The deposit bonus is even more of a bonus now. I'm a MICROlimit guy though, and it's taking me forever!

foldmasta
05-04-2006, 05:06 PM
At .25/.50 limit this bonus is horrible. I play a lot on fulltilt because i like razz... don't go there for the bonus. If you like the games, the bonus is a 60% rakeback but definitly not worth "whoring"... even at 2/4 razz and PLO50/PLO100 it clears SLOW...

Ken_AA
05-04-2006, 05:37 PM
If you clear with SNG's you can get 42% rakeback on your fees and a 50 dollar gift card from PSO.

No rakeback after if you plan on doing reloads.

WordWhiz
05-04-2006, 05:54 PM
Wait until you move up in stakes to chase bonuses like FT which clear as a % of rake generated. 17x is awful. Just keep hitting up Primas, B2B, Party, Paradise, Absolute, etc. until you play high enough that this works out to at least a 10x. I love FT, but for a low limit whore, every second you spend there is a second you could be whoring for a much better rate elsewhere.

Thoth
05-07-2006, 03:55 PM
I'm working on this one right now at .5/1NL 6-max.

Got 6424 real hands and cleared $216.57. Total Rake is $484.65, so I get another 27% * $268.08 = $72.38.
Don't know what percentage of the hands was raked.

MicroBob
05-07-2006, 04:31 PM
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I guess this is a 17x bonus (at .50/1 limit anyhow), but for 100% I guess that is pretty good? I'm fairly new to bonus chasing.

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I (and many others) don't really care whether a bonus is 100% or not.
On almost every site you can cash-out whatever you want shortly after depositing for the bonus anyway.



so if I had a 5% bonus that cleared at a 5x rate (deposit $2000 for a $100 bonus) that would still be better to me than a 100% bonus that clears at a 10x rate (deposit $100 for a $100 bonus).

As long as you have enough money on hand to deposit for the bonus I pretty much ONLy care about the terms of clearing the bonus.


For other sites it is worth noting that not all 10x type bonuses are created equal as more and more sites are doing the 'partial raked-hand' thing (like AP and crypto).
So looking at a Party 10x vs. a crypto 10x is not the same.

chicagoY
05-07-2006, 07:23 PM
The best part of FT is that you get all those pts just by being dealt a hand. Clearing Doyles is killing me.

wla
05-07-2006, 08:11 PM
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Pokeraddict
05-07-2006, 09:52 PM
Nice spam all over the bonus forum wla.

As for the FT bonus, if you play 2/4+ it will clear at a reasonable pace.

benfranklin
05-09-2006, 12:39 AM
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I (and many others) don't really care whether a bonus is 100% or not.
On almost every site you can cash-out whatever you want shortly after depositing for the bonus anyway.





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Agree. Lots of people gripe about only getting 15% on a Party reload while others got 25%, but it's always $100 (or whatever) max for everyone. If you "only" get 15%, you only have to tie up a couple hundred more bucks for a day or two. You are still getting the same number of bonus dollars as everyone else.

I have been looking at Full Tilt, and had a few questions. It sounds like you can deposit $600, get the bonus, and then just keep whatever you need to in your account to clear the bonus, correct?

Can you clear bonuses with SnGs, and is this roughly equivalent to clearing in ring games?

Are there enough players there now that you can find enough lower limit games (1/2 or 2/4, or $10-$30 SnGs) to play 2-4 tables and clear the bonuses in a reasonable time? It's hard to get a good read on whether or not the players are there without actually playing there.

Thanks to all in advance for any info.

darkcore
05-09-2006, 01:10 AM
combined with rb this bonus does not sound too bad for nl $50/nl$100. especially since you have 3 month to clear it and it pays incrementally.

seems decent for times when all the better bonuses are worked off.

what is the table limit at FT? 4?

HSB
05-09-2006, 10:00 AM
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I have been looking at Full Tilt, and had a few questions. It sounds like you can deposit $600, get the bonus, and then just keep whatever you need to in your account to clear the bonus, correct?

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Yes, but they charge your transaction fees against your MGR.

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Can you clear bonuses with SnGs, and is this roughly equivalent to clearing in ring games?

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Yes, and slightly better on a dollar cleared per dollar raked basis.

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Are there enough players there now that you can find enough lower limit games (1/2 or 2/4, or $10-$30 SnGs) to play 2-4 tables and clear the bonuses in a reasonable time? It's hard to get a good read on whether or not the players are there without actually playing there.

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I don't know about limit but there are plenty of low level NL tables.

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combined with rb this bonus does not sound too bad for nl $50/nl$100. especially since you have 3 month to clear it and it pays incrementally.

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Combined with rakeback it translates to about 70% rakeback.

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what is the table limit at FT? 4?

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Correct.

HSB
05-09-2006, 10:10 AM
Pokersite has the following

http://pokersitescout.com/FullTilt_detail.asp

http://pokersitescout.com/FullTilt_FLHE.asp

At the time of writing, they have about 700 players on site with a 24 hour high of 3080. NL players outnumber Limit players roughly 4:1. If those percentages hold during the peak evening hours, you won't have any trouble finding the right games, I don't think. At this hour, they have three tables of 1/2 and three of 2/4.

It's really more geared towards NL than limit but there are probably enough games for you during peak hours.

MakesCents
05-09-2006, 10:22 AM
Is it really 4 table max? I could have sworn Ive had at least 5 open and going at a time. 4x NL and 1x SnG may be the reason though. I know last night was the first time I ever got the trying to open too many tables error and Im almost certain that was when I was trying to open my 6th table.

FlawedChip
05-09-2006, 11:08 AM
You can e-mail Full Tilt support and ask them to increase your maximum number of tables.