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Pokamastah
05-01-2006, 04:03 AM
I have had terrible results playing Pontoon on Cryptologic, so bad that I'm beginning to question if the software is legit.

How likely is it to be down about 170 bets and busting from every crypto(Littlewoods, Intercasino and William Hill) in the 2 months I've played them?

I deposited £200(100+100)on Littlewoods casino last month and ended up with £128 including the £50 bonus, just now I busted the remaining £128 for this months bonus. I know it should be +EV to redeposit and clear the rest of the wagering requirement, but it just doesn't seem so...

So has anyone had consistant results approaching the EV of these bonuses? Can the software be trusted? Am i really just running horribly bad?

Aytumious
05-01-2006, 04:26 AM
I'm way over my EV on these things over the last year or so.

HajiShirazu
05-01-2006, 04:47 AM
hi,
how much did you win in the past? because everydoby knows that after you win 500 at pontoon crypto flips the doom switch on you and you lose like 7/10 hands including when you have a9 and double after four cards against dealer six and he goes ten five and you go ace for the ass raping.

Roy6
05-01-2006, 07:12 AM
I tried to play Pontoon at WillHill, but there's no double option? WTF?

ImsaKidd
05-01-2006, 10:12 AM
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I tried to play Pontoon at WillHill, but there's no double option? WTF?

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Seriously? I want to clear the bonus with pontoon, looks like im headed back to blackjack.

bulldawgblue
05-01-2006, 10:15 AM
There's a bajillion posts on this.....conclusion = NOT RIGGED.

_TKO_
05-01-2006, 10:58 AM
I believe pontoon has more variance than blackjack.

nivaman
05-01-2006, 11:11 AM
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I tried to play Pontoon at WillHill, but there's no double option? WTF?

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on crypto-sites the "double option" is called "buy"
so, try the "buy-button"

AncientPC
05-01-2006, 12:11 PM
Yup, pontoon is less -EV but higher variance.

KSOT
05-01-2006, 12:48 PM
Crypto Pontoon is the love child of Satan and variance.

OP, if you don't wanna go busto, bet $1 at a time. If you do, carry on.

Photoc
05-01-2006, 01:20 PM
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OP, if you don't wanna go busto, bet $1 at a time. If you do, carry on.

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You can't. Minimum bet is $5.

KSOT
05-01-2006, 04:11 PM
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OP, if you don't wanna go busto, bet $1 at a time. If you do, carry on.

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You can't. Minimum bet is $5.

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Only on Intercasino.

Olin Prefleup
05-19-2006, 12:41 AM
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You can't. Minimum bet is $5.

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Only on Intercasino.

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Only at Pontoon or BJ too??

Photoc
05-19-2006, 12:42 AM
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You can't. Minimum bet is $5.

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Only on Intercasino.

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Only at Pontoon or BJ too??

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Honestly, never played BJ there, but I think multiplayer or multihand is $1.

aargh57
05-19-2006, 09:33 PM
Crypto Pontoon is just as rigged as Crypto Poker.

TrendYourFriend
05-20-2006, 02:09 AM
You should check out some of my posts over the past week in the probability forum.

Since I started playing Pontoon and Blackjack with Cryptologic software, using perfect basic strategy and flat betting $2, I'm down 226 units with only $10,477 wagered. I had to go on quite a run to achieve these results, because for awhile, I was down over 250 units and about 4 Standard Deviations from the mean or 1 in 2500 chance of doing that poorly or worse.

I just had a run in blackjack the other day where I went 28 out of 30 hands without a win (i either lost or pushed) and during that streak, I went 21 straight hands without a Blackjack win.

Cryptologic is legitimate software but when you're are running this poorly, it's hard not to think there is something going on.

peinchka
05-25-2006, 07:49 PM
I like this game, similar edge to BJ but varience like hell! Plenty extra bustouts to keep me making pennies

MikeyObviously
05-25-2006, 08:13 PM
It is 6 dollars difference assuming you finish WR in both scenarios.

Lets not forget that busting actually increases EV!

hogua
05-25-2006, 10:43 PM
I just lost $100 on Pontoon... I had a streak where I lost 18 out of 19 hands...wtf?

AceMason
05-25-2006, 11:06 PM
I had a streak on pontoon at caribbean sun where I won 20 bets in 100 hands and then proceeded to lose all of my deposit and bonus after being up 20 units in the first 100... I've always thought they were rigged but haven't been back since. Regardless of whether or not it's legit, I just feel fishy playing online casinos.

kyleb
05-25-2006, 11:38 PM
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I just lost $100 on Pontoon... I had a streak where I lost 18 out of 19 hands...wtf?

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Welcome to Pontoon!

Freakin
05-25-2006, 11:48 PM
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I just lost $100 on Pontoon... I had a streak where I lost 18 out of 19 hands...wtf?

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Welcome to Pontoon!

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Lmao... the variance is both the gift, and curse of Pontoon. Nothing feels better than doubling a 4-card 11 though.

Photoc
05-26-2006, 01:10 AM
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Lmao... the variance is both the gift, and curse of Pontoon. Nothing feels better than doubling a 4-card 11 when you have your biggest bet of the day on the table

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Roy6
05-26-2006, 12:30 PM
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Lmao... the variance is both the gift, and curse of Pontoon. Nothing feels better than doubling a 4-card 11 hen you have your biggest bet of the day on the table and seeing the dealer pulling a 5 card trick

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Fixed again

Freakin
05-26-2006, 01:06 PM
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Lmao... the variance is both the gift, and curse of Pontoon. Nothing feels better than doubling a 4-card 11 hen you have your biggest bet of the day on the table and seeing the dealer pulling a 5 card trick

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Fixed again

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Best and worst moments of my life.

YES! 5-card trick against a dealer 13! AAA DAMMIT!

peinchka
05-26-2006, 02:29 PM
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It is 6 dollars difference assuming you finish WR in both scenarios.

Lets not forget that busting actually increases EV!

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yes busting is quicker and increses EV, plenty of posts about if you dont understand the latter.

latefordinner
05-26-2006, 06:16 PM
Running good on pontoon is a magical experience. Nothing like 10 or 15 hands in a row where you win to make you feel unstoppable.

But let it be said that busting out at cryptos does NOT equal more EV because the wagering doesn't clear. You still have to do it again the next month.

Freakin
05-26-2006, 06:16 PM
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Running good on pontoon is a magical experience. Nothing like 10 or 15 hands in a row where you win to make you feel unstoppable.

But let it be said that busting out at cryptos does NOT equal more EV because the wagering doesn't clear. You still have to do it again the next month.

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thats always my favorite part

latefordinner
05-26-2006, 11:57 PM
the running good, or the having to clear all your wagering still next month?

Izverg04
05-27-2006, 05:45 AM
Yeah, busting on Cryptos doesn't make any sense, unless you don't want to come back the next month. Which to think of it, doesn't make sense either.

peinchka
05-27-2006, 09:55 AM
dont understand why

PollyEmory
05-27-2006, 10:42 AM
Umm..it's a risk-free bonus, what doesn't make sense about playing it risk free?